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Bill: Minimum Wages Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Revolutionary Democratic Socialists
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2353
Description[?]:
| Increase the Minimum Wage to benefit the peoplewho are on minimum wage, and need this the most. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a full time worker on it can support a family of four without falling under the poverty line.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level considered a "living wage," well above the poverty line for a full time worker.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:29:31, February 01, 2007 CET | From | Revolutionary Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Minimum Wages Bill |
| Message | Everyone deserves a life, and more than this, they deserve a life of relative comfort and ease. Everyone deserve more than a subsistance. This bill would give not only working people, but their communities and families the abilt to exist in comfort and the economic power to properly persue their individual happiness. |
| Date | 10:39:58, February 01, 2007 CET | From | Revolutionary Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Minimum Wages Bill |
| Message | Everyone deserves a life, and more than this, they deserve a life of relative comfort and ease. Everyone deserve more than a subsistance. This bill would give not only working people, but their communities and families the abilt to exist in comfort and the economic power to properly persue their individual happiness. |
| Date | 17:22:05, February 01, 2007 CET | From |  National Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Minimum Wages Bill |
| Message | Workers lacking the will to work is not our concern. We shall not pay for the luxuries of those who will not contribute to society. We concur with this view, and congratulate the DSP on their sensible outlook. |
| Date | 20:35:29, February 01, 2007 CET | From | Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Minimum Wages Bill |
| Message | In agreement with you NPB. |
| Date | 22:08:17, February 01, 2007 CET | From | Paraplu party | To | Debating the Minimum Wages Bill |
| Message | I do not. First of all we are not the ones paying the min wage, the companies are. Second, If they are lacking the will to work, they would be fired. Third, if they are being payed more, that means they will probably do better. For example, A group of students were given a pretest. The ones who did bad were sent to a room and told they did well. The ones who did well went t a room and told they did bad, and that they would have to take things slower for them. Then the took the test again later, and the students who did well at first did bad at the end because they were told they did bad. The ones who did bad at first did goo at the end because they were told they did good. That, my friends is a true story. |
| Date | 23:06:16, February 01, 2007 CET | From | Revolutionary Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Minimum Wages Bill |
| Message | I am not proposing a pay rise to those who dont work, only those who do! People that are already working full time, deserve a decent wage, for themselves and their family! |
| Date | 02:40:58, February 02, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Minimum Wages Bill |
| Message | "they deserve a life of relative comfort and ease. Everyone deserve more than a subsistance" Really? I thought comfort, ease and living above subsistence was something that was earned by contributing something to society beyond mindless manual labour, which can in fact be performed by just about everyone. "economic power to properly persue their individual happiness." Except by the same token, you've crippled them by increasing inflation because the aureus is worth less now that everyone has more. Furthermore, if employers have to pay more to keep employees, then the employer will not be able to afford as many employees, meaning that there is an increase in unemployment. Basically, we see that raising the minimum wage in such a fashion causes the two biggest pains in the economic ass: inflation and unemployment. "People that are already working full time, deserve a decent wage, for themselves and their family!" Who says they're not getting one? Are you just creating an image of a poverty-stricken family which truly does not exist? Why must you constantly fear-monger RDS? Why aren't workers capable of striking for better pay and conditions? Why can't the labour market just be? Why must you interfere constantly in society? Why must you force the government to step in, creating a society of spineless and mindless automatons with no initiative? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 34 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 66 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Moderation will not approve a Cultural Protocol request within the first 48 hours of it being requested. This is in order to give other players a chance to query the proposed changes, if they wish to do so. Moderation may be approached for advice on a proposed change, but any advice proffered should always be understood under the provisio that no final decision will be made until at least 48 hours after the request has been formally submitted for approval. |
| Random quote: "Any law which violates the inalienable rights of man is essentially unjust and tyrannical; it is not a law at all." - Maximilien Robespierre |