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Bill: Strong Agriculture Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Anarchosyndicalist Libertarian Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2083
Description[?]:
| We propose to strenghten our agriculture but increasing farm size |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning farm size.
Old value:: Farm size is not regulated.
Current: Farm size regulations are determined by local governments.
Proposed: Small farms are encouraged to merge together into larger ones.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:30:39, July 19, 2005 CET | From |  Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Strong Agriculture Act |
| Message | We prefer no regulation so that families can keep their small farms if they wish, we rely on the market making them sell if it is not profitable for them. |
| Date | 12:04:40, July 19, 2005 CET | From | Anarchosyndicalist Libertarian Front | To | Debating the Strong Agriculture Act |
| Message | Agriculture and free market? Where have you studied economics? |
| Date | 12:38:11, July 19, 2005 CET | From | Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Strong Agriculture Act |
| Message | Try the London School of Economics and Political Science. The foremost Economic school in the world and the one of the top 10 universities in the world. 3rd Best in Britain. |
| Date | 13:05:09, July 19, 2005 CET | From | Anarchosyndicalist Libertarian Front | To | Debating the Strong Agriculture Act |
| Message | So we can talk. Where in the real world state doesn't subside agriculture? |
| Date | 13:19:08, July 19, 2005 CET | From | Capitalist Party | To | Debating the Strong Agriculture Act |
| Message | China and India. This is beside the point, do you not realise the damage that subsidies do to poor people, to people from developing nations? They lead to starvation and poverty as these poor farmers in there poor country cannot sell rich countries their agircultural goods as rich countries subsidise their own farmers. |
| Date | 13:26:04, July 19, 2005 CET | From | Anarchosyndicalist Libertarian Front | To | Debating the Strong Agriculture Act |
| Message | No good examples I think for our great country! I agree with that what you have writen abut subsidy. I understand that - and I agree but we don't want export or production subsidies but encourage people to have larger farms! (sorry one more time for not very good English) |
| Date | 10:28:09, July 20, 2005 CET | From | MetaMenorPhists Party | To | Debating the Strong Agriculture Act |
| Message | I like the confrontation between opinions and this discussion seems to me the most civilised we can see till now between you two - I may see more with the next bills I am going to check out, of course ... ALFP has an opinion ... and makes it a proposal, prompts to debate and next to vote ... that is just how fast people from this country will reunite - their small farmers identities - but on the streets, if finding out you are going to amass them in larger farms ... However you are right ALFP ... I agree with the idea, not sure if with the proposal ... Somethings make conservatorist people be afraid of changes against their ownings ... and may be right, while many are just taking the profits leaving them without benefits from their own lands ... now being merged in large farms belonging to Who? CP says he is against the proposal, but he does not says "a why" ... he indirectly suggests how poor can this solution be for poor countries ... and I repeat, this country ha speople with opinions belonging to a cultural level which is not common for Widely Urbanised developed countries and economies according to the urban standard ... this people is at large, but: fanatic, conservative, repressive, aggressive, permissive ... which are not characteristics of a rich standard ... can be just wealthy (meantime). The idea I suggest is to find yourself books where you can read how easy a small farm, the smallest in the country can become the wealthiest and most productive farm than all other small farms from the Small farms category ... For this the farmer needs assistance and engineering ... it is the first step we should make ... intrucing a law for these needs, three four years later we can introduce the Bill for larger farms merging into these the smaller we can afford right now ... But the efficiency and the results from our good intentions must be visible before any land management and property changes (we consider to make). the problem of "merging" does not work if we don't ensure a maximum of results (from our intervention in their lives) as coming from Science, impressive science results ... After reading the science topics from our law alternatives I found : Genetically Modified crops, which can virtually be used in this country, but in my real life I prefere to eat trees and grass instead of these research results provided by fully staffed "organised crime" ... I already voted against GM crops ... and I found also a solution in subsidizing the low income farms, but the alternative says "Low income farming families" and I would rely on Farming low income farms ... not families, large families ... Inacceptable ... Dear friend ALFP, I want to vote for your proposal now when I can't find a solution ... however I looked at the density of the population and it says that with the variations from aregion to another and with the roumors created this law will be the most discussed law in the next years in this country and we will have to fight against poor people without enough cultural stability (good opinions) to accept an amass of their lands and ownings into one belonging to "who ... we don't know". Why can't you just wait few months till these opinions changes? please do it and will be in your advantage ... plus that I will vote YES. |
| Date | 10:32:30, July 20, 2005 CET | From | MetaMenorPhists Party | To | Debating the Strong Agriculture Act |
| Message | As for now I am Abstaining ... (is this the english word?) |
| Date | 10:38:49, July 20, 2005 CET | From | MetaMenorPhists Party | To | Debating the Strong Agriculture Act |
| Message | You ALFP may still win some points from the population who perhaps feel so poor that a joint forces larger farm would be just the idea they expected ... but re these people living trully in middle age or before? Are they lacking the minimum of experience in "troubles" caused by wrongly enlarged farms? I don't know ... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 111 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 237 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 147 |
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