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Bill: Amended Space Exploration Act.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal-Progressive Union
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2083
Description[?]:
| This bill keeps the space program under government regulation. This bill allows for a limited number of private companies that will be under the supervision of the government. The purpose of this bill is to free up some money that is spent on developing a space program and divert it to various budget needs. The private companies will pay with their own funds and also they will bring with them the expertise that the finest private companies can employ. This will help adavance our space program without bankrupting our government. Again, these companies will be under the supervision of our own government space regulators. The government reserves the right to approach the companies with specific missions that may arise. The government will pay for any mission that the government requests that is outside of the normal operations of that company. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards space exploration.
Old value:: The government shall fully fund a state-owned space agency which controls all national space-related activity.
Current: The government shall issue permits to private space-exploration companies.
Proposed: The government shall operate a space agency that contracts with and oversees private space-exploration companies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:15:52, July 19, 2005 CET | From |  Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Amended Space Exploration Act. |
| Message | I tried to reach some middle ground with this bill. It still under goverment control but with the money and the skills of a few private companies. Any suggestions let me know. |
| Date | 13:19:10, July 19, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Amended Space Exploration Act. |
| Message | How about adding that the government has the right to ask companies to perform specific missions and that some government funding will be used to help pay for those projects? |
| Date | 13:21:54, July 19, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Amended Space Exploration Act. |
| Message | Ok, I'll add to bill. |
| Date | 14:19:11, July 19, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Amended Space Exploration Act. |
| Message | Private space exploration will lead to shameless exploitation by marketing and advertising companies, and undermine the government's advances and achievements in space. Naturally, we cannot accept this. |
| Date | 14:41:16, July 19, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Amended Space Exploration Act. |
| Message | If you bothered to read the description, the government maintains control over the entire program. By allowing a small number of private companies to work under the government it will free up billions of dollars that was slated to go towards space exploration. But with the private companies paying for most of the project, that means billions of dollars are now free to go to schools, homeless shelters,and other programs in need, So being the socialist that you claim to be, shouldn't you really be enthusiastic about money that wasn't available but which thanks to private companies, it is now available by the billions. So I would advise you, before you start playing Lenin and repeating empty slogans against anything that isn't nationalised, think a little bit of the long term before quoting "pravda". You'll enjoy this game much more if you just treat it as a game but also think a little bit. Empty slogans are just that "empty" |
| Date | 15:05:37, July 19, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Amended Space Exploration Act. |
| Message | There is no need to patrionise at all, and for your information, I did read the description of the Bill. If I didn't, then please tell me what the point would have been in commenting? We stand firmly by our statement, thank you very much. It is an extremely naive move to allow private companies to fund space exploration, moderated by the government or not, and to think that these companies will not exploit the situation and use it to further their own means. Eventually, this situation has the ability to spiral and grow into a fully privatised system ,and this is something that we fundamentally reject. Yes, there are other programs in need, but this is not the way to make money. By scrapping ID cards, and imposing economic limitations on business, we can successfully fight poverty. One way not to fight poverty is to collaborate with capitalist companies who only think for profit and for themselves. This money might 'be available by the billions', but how many billions worldwide have been exploited? Next time, maybe you should do the thinking. I'm sure a weak capitalist party in denial would not be in the interest of the people. |
| Date | 15:26:34, July 19, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Amended Space Exploration Act. |
| Message | I apologize for my attitude, it was uncalled for. But I felt you were missing the larger picture. Space exploration was going to continue no mater what. By bringing in private companies that are still under government control, think of the money that will be free up instead of wasting away launching some $400 trillion satellite up into orbit for 4 days Thats money they can fill in any budget gaps and fund social services that we normally wouldn't have.That is a good thing correct? I apologize for the lenin remarks and I apologize for my "surly" attitude It wont happen again.. |
| Date | 15:36:59, July 19, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Amended Space Exploration Act. |
| Message | Apology accepted. My response was far from civil anyway. |
| Date | 18:15:50, July 19, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Amended Space Exploration Act. |
| Message | We support this bill, purely because it retains control of the industry by Government. @USM - Believe me, I certainly do not want to see business, public or private, exploiting space (a point I believed I raised the last time a change to this law was ammended), however Space agencies cost extraordinate amounts of money, something scrapping ID cards would be far from able to cover. Allowing Private resources into the Government controlled sector, under strict regulation (personnally I would like some form of fine system and or banning orders implementable for any indiscretions that may occur) Private business could be beneficial to the system. We hope you will reconsider. |
| Date | 21:37:49, July 19, 2005 CET | From | United Socialist Movement | To | Debating the Amended Space Exploration Act. |
| Message | We cannot reconsider, the USM resists all measures of privatisation or business colaboration. It is, of course, not just about scrapping ID cards, there are many measures which could be taken. That was just an example, but I do see your point. I firmly believe that private business interfierance would never be beneficial to the country, to be honest. |
| Date | 22:45:15, July 19, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Amended Space Exploration Act. |
| Message | This amended bill is an admirable compromise with the concerns voiced in the previous debate, and we feel that with government regulation it can be ensured that space exploration and research remains with the best interests of mankind, not private corporations, at heart. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 272 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 128 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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