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Bill: Orange Act XXI
Details
Submitted by[?]: Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2356
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Curfew policy (curfew time to be determined in the bill description).
Old value:: The national government may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Current: No curfew policies may be established.
Proposed: No curfew policies may be established.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Eminent Domain.
Old value:: The government may not seize private property.
Current: The government may seize private property for vital government works and for corporate use.
Proposed: The government may seize private property for vital government works.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government agricultural and farming subsidies policy.
Old value:: Agricultural crops which are considered beneficial to the enviroment or to the continued ecological safety of the state are subsidized.
Current: The government subsidises the operations of low-income farming families.
Proposed: The government denies subsidy assistance to farmers.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change
The government's policy regarding foreign marriages.
Old value:: Only foreign marriages that comply with domestic policy regarding marriage are recognised.
Current: All foreign marriages are recognised, regardless of domestic policy regarding marriage.
Proposed: No foreign marriages are recognised.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards the cloning of human beings.
Old value:: Research in cloning technologies is legal, but regulated.
Current: Research in cloning technologies is not regulated.
Proposed: Research in cloning technologies is not regulated.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Current: There is a compulsory private pension system.
Proposed: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Secondary strike action.
Old value:: Any trade union can go on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Current: Only closely related trade unions can walk out on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Proposed: Secondary strike action is illegal. Workers and unions can only go on strike for their own pay and conditions.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Sale of tobacco products.
Old value:: There are no regulations on the sale of tobacco.
Current: There are no regulations on the sale of tobacco.
Proposed: Only adults may purchase tobacco.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:53:28, February 06, 2007 CET | From | Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Orange Act XXI |
| Message | yes for 2, no for the rest. |
| Date | 17:30:29, February 06, 2007 CET | From |  National Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Orange Act XXI |
| Message | I'm finding the best tactic for these strategic bills is abstaining. |
| Date | 17:40:38, February 06, 2007 CET | From | Socialist Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Orange Act XXI |
| Message | But if you abstain yourselves, the law passes and they win. If you do not want that he passes, voted. |
| Date | 00:05:00, February 07, 2007 CET | From | Paraplu party | To | Debating the Orange Act XXI |
| Message | I am unconvinced about the pension curfews should be left to the local governments! Some places may need it while others may not. AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO TAKE SOMEONE'S HOME!!!!!!!!! |
| Date | 01:49:58, February 07, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Orange Act XXI |
| Message | "I'm finding the best tactic for these strategic bills is abstaining." I'm hoping that'll backfire, even thoguh the penalty for abstension is nowhere near as large as it used to be. |
| Date | 01:57:23, February 07, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Orange Act XXI |
| Message | "I am unconvinced about the pension" The government of Baltusia does not protect people from themselves when it comes to drinking poison or walking in front of cars, so why do we protect people from being unable to manage their money? If you plan on living into retirement, you should save for it while you earn it. What if they're too poor? One has to ask why they are too poor to save up for themselves. Is it because they chose to squander their money instead of being pragmatic? Did they sign themselves into a binding contract without taking the future into account? Are they unwilling to work, which begs the question: do they deserve any of the fruits of society's labour? Is there any scenario you can come up with that does not involve the person in question being stupid or lazy? It is hardly reasonable to state that there could be anyone, anywhere in Baltusia that is working and too poor to cover their basic needs, what with the free government handouts and all (i.e. rent and utility subsidies, child benefits, some welfare, a reasonable minimum wage with free universal health and education - which I might add, WE pioneered the modern Baltusian welfare state), so it seems reasonable that no one has both a reasonable level of cognition and motivation and is too poor to save for the future. "curfews should be left to the local governments! Some places may need it while others may not." Regardless of the need, the government has no right to tell people where they can and cannot go, barring a national emergency where an invasion is imminent and we need to conscript people. "AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO TAKE SOMEONE'S HOME!!!!!!!!!" Who has a greater right? The tax payers not to have to shell out an extra billion aureus to re-route an important sewage line or the person who rejects the reasonable compensation? |
| Date | 17:42:05, February 07, 2007 CET | From | Elite Sinn Fein | To | Debating the Orange Act XXI |
| Message | "I'm finding the best tactic for these strategic bills is abstaining. " (sigh) me too, either way I vote on these bills, I get screwed. |
| Date | 17:58:25, February 07, 2007 CET | From | National Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Orange Act XXI |
| Message | Gah. I cannot let this pass. Screw strategy. |
| Date | 03:49:56, February 08, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Orange Act XXI |
| Message | Man you guys are lucky there's a proposal cap... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 62 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 92 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 36 |
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