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Bill: Private Sport Clubs
Details
Submitted by[?]: Alliance for Freedom
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2357
Description[?]:
| We can't understand why the state must fund sport clubs, we believe in the privatization of all the services which aren`t essential for hobrazians. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The funding of sports clubs.
Old value:: The government funds some sports clubs side-by-side with private ones.
Current: The government does not fund sports clubs; only private ones are allowed.
Proposed: The government does not fund sports clubs; only private ones are allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:01:43, February 06, 2007 CET | From |  Hobrazia Democrats | To | Debating the Private Sport Clubs |
| Message | The question is not here whether it is essential or not. Sports-clubs contribute well to the well-being of the Hobrazians, and reduce the costs for health care. That said, we support this bill. Why ? Because we think that the market of demand and supply will ensure the best price-quality. |
| Date | 23:33:29, February 06, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Private Sport Clubs |
| Message | The point is is that sports clubs can be very expensive. When they are cheap, they tend not to offer decent equipment or service. In order to reduce overall health care costs, it is deemed better to provide these services supported by government funds to guarantee that these clubs are available for use to everybody rather than the few providing decent equipment. In this way we deal with possible medical problems before they become problems and reduce overall expenditure and thusly taxation. Market demand does not always guarantee quality, merely price. |
| Date | 10:01:18, February 07, 2007 CET | From | Hobrazia Democrats | To | Debating the Private Sport Clubs |
| Message | And government doesn't always know what is the best for its citizens |
| Date | 14:34:53, February 07, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Private Sport Clubs |
| Message | Neither does business, nor do they care, whereas government has to at least try and do what's best in order to stay in power. If everything is private they compete with each other until the point where it is unprofitable so what you actually get is a small number of 'good' clubs with decent equipment where only a few can afford to go whilst everyone else has to use junk because it's the cheaper option, or use nothing at all. The current law allows for the best of both worlds with the private clubs still able to offer an 'elite' service to those who can afford it whilst government supported clubs provide better equipment at lower overall cost to those that can't. |
| Date | 21:18:47, February 07, 2007 CET | From | Alliance for Freedom | To | Debating the Private Sport Clubs |
| Message | and the teddy bears are good of children and not because of this the state must have public factories making it. |
| Date | 00:27:38, February 08, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Private Sport Clubs |
| Message | That's a fatuitous argument. Would having a teddy bear improve the physical health of a child or would it be difficult or expensive to afford. As the answer to all of these is no, then there is no requirement for the state to provide for it. As it would be expensive for people to afford sports clubs, which should be available to all, and they do improve physical health of people so reducing health expenditure then there is a requirement for the state to provide for it. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 93 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 262 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 45 |
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