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Bill: Safe Abortion Act.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal-Progressive Union
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2083
Description[?]:
| Abortions are something we all like to see legal, safe, and rare. This current bill can help save the life of the mother and the child in emergency's that happen in the last trimester of a womans pregnancy. This Bill will legalise abortion through the entire pregnency but with certain restrictions. 1) An abortion can be perforned if the mothers or babies life is at immediate risk. 2) The unnborn child is knownto suffer from severe medical and or mental disorder. 3) The mother is terminally ill and has no family or refuses to put baby up for adoption. The mother must be in the late stages of her illness. 4)Girls wanting an abortion must be at least 16 years of age. 5) The mother chooses to have a late term abortion because she has no means to care for it. Others willl be added as suggested. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Current: All abortions are illegal.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the entire course of the pregnancy.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:05:16, July 20, 2005 CET | From |   Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | Providing unstricted access to abortions for woman will make sure they are performed in a safe,clean,and performed by a medical doctor. Allowing the woman to choose is the best option for our government and society as a whole. |
| Date | 03:03:40, July 20, 2005 CET | From | National Imperial Hobrazian Front | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | The risk of complications due to abortions increases greatly during the third trimester. We cannot accept such legislation. The first two trimesters give the woman ample time to decide whether she is capable of adequately supporting a child or not. The CSP is a pro-choice party, but abortion during the third trimester is pushing it. |
| Date | 03:10:34, July 20, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | Thats why I added provisons to the bill. Complications may arise and an abortion may be the mothers only option to survive. If a woman chooses to have an abortion during her third trimester, wouldn't you prefer if she went to a clean, regulated facility with doctors instead of having her perform it herself in some bathroom? If a woman chooses to have an abortion shw will regardless of the law. I feel she can do what she wants with her body and make it as safe as possible for her. |
| Date | 10:03:12, July 20, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | Does this continue to allow other reasons, e.g. not wishing for another baby, during the first two trimesters? If so then we can support this. |
| Date | 11:05:14, July 20, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | Yes , if a woman decides she cant for whatever reason have a child during as late as her second trimester she will be able to have a abortion. |
| Date | 13:41:37, July 20, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | The current law is sufficient. Though we are not a pro-life party in the way many describe it (we are in favour of allowing abortions) we must also take the life of the unborn into account. Under current legislature, a mother can have an abortion any time up until the 20th week of her pregnancy. Until this time the foetus within the mother is not technically alive, merely a growth feeding off its provider. However, from this period the foetus develops brain activity and begins to respond to outside stimuli. Also, a child can be birthed and survive (with intense medical care) from the 22nd week, well within the second trimester of pregnancy. We must also point out that the current legislation allows for abortions later should there be complications of a medical nature, because of this we feel that the current legislation is adequate to help cover both the needs of the mother and the unborn. |
| Date | 13:45:54, July 20, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | Well this will be used mainly to save the life of the mother and or child. Also if a woman decides to abort in her third trimester where is she going to go? That is more dangerous than the few third trimester abortions that will take place. I feel we must keep this as safe and clean as possible. |
| Date | 18:54:07, July 20, 2005 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | "Well this will be used mainly to save the life of the mother and or child." - Still applicable within current law. The problem is balancing the wishes of the woman, whos body is being effected, and what is, by the 3rd trimester, a living child. The current law allows for the abortion of a zygote as until this point there is no specific life barring the reproduction of cells. However, by the 3rd trimester the thing within the woman is now self aware. The woman is still given 20wks (4 1/2 months) to consider abortion or whether to keep the child, this isn't a short time. Also, there is a danger to the woman having a 3rd trimester abortion that isn't there during the previous 2, especially her mental health. As already mentioned, should there be a medical reason why the woman requires an abortion, than the current law already allows for this. As such, there is no specific requirement for a change in the law. |
| Date | 19:27:58, July 20, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | We must stand with the RP and WSS on this issue. Whilst we are a staunchly pro-choice party, we feel that third trimester abortions carry too high a risk of complications. If the mother's life is at risk in the third trimester, the baby would be delivered by caesarian section anyway, in which case it may or may not survive. As the WSS has pointed out, the foetus is self-aware in the third trimester and is capable of feeling pain. It is no-one's place to decide during this final trimester whether the unborn child should live or die. There is no need to amend existing legislation. |
| Date | 17:34:36, July 21, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | Wow - closest ever result. |
| Date | 18:05:51, July 21, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | A two vote difference, wow. Good display of democracy here everyone voted. |
| Date | 22:55:26, July 21, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Liberal Party | To | Debating the Safe Abortion Act. |
| Message | Guess it shows how polarising an issue abortion is, it inspired everyone to vote and was a very close result! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 201 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 199 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Don't vote yes on a cabinet coalition that doesn't give you the power that you deserve. |
| Random quote: "A prince never lacks legitimate reasons to break his promise." - Niccolo Machiavelli |