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Bill: Society Advancement Resolution
Details
Submitted by[?]: Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2359
Description[?]:
A bill to demonstrate the true vision of this party |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on advertising
Old value:: All advertising is permitted.
Current: All advertising is permitted.
Proposed: Only advertising that meets certain set standards is permitted.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards alcoholic beverages.
Old value:: Alcoholic beverage regulations are not imposed by the government.
Current: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, and can only be available to adults.
Proposed: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased and consumed anywhere, but only by adults.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning child labour.
Old value:: Child labour is allowed, but with additional regulations to those of adult labourers.
Current: Child labour is forbidden.
Proposed: Child labour is forbidden.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning granting citizenship.
Old value:: Citizenship is granted only to landowners.
Current: Citizenship is granted to all nationals.
Proposed: Citizenship is granted to all nationals.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The legality of divorces (if marriages are recognised).
Old value:: Divorces are legal, be it mutual consent, grounded cause or if one partner wants it.
Current: Divorces are only legal with grounded cause (such as adultery, or violence).
Proposed: Divorces are only legal with grounded cause (such as adultery, or violence).
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 16
Current: 16
Proposed: 18
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Eminent Domain.
Old value:: The government may not seize private property.
Current: The policy regarding eminent domain is left to local governments.
Proposed: The policy regarding eminent domain is left to local governments.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the keeping of endangered animals.
Old value:: Everyone may keep endangered animals, without any restrictions whatsoever.
Current: Only zoos or zoological institutions are allowed to keep endangered animals; all other forms of keeping or trading in endangered animals are forbidden.
Proposed: Only zoos or zoological institutions are allowed to keep endangered animals; all other forms of keeping or trading in endangered animals are forbidden.
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Current: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Proposed: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Article 10
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the keeping of exotic animals.
Old value:: Everyone may keep exotic animals, the trade in exotic animals is unregulated.
Current: Everyone may keep exotic animals, but the trade in exotic animals is regulated by the government.
Proposed: Everyone may keep exotic animals, but the trade in exotic animals is regulated by the government.
Article 11
Proposal[?] to change National policy regarding the desecration of the national flag.
Old value:: There are no regulations regarding the desecration or use of the national flag.
Current: The national flag may not be desecrated or used for commercial purposes.
Proposed: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Article 12
Proposal[?] to change Forest management.
Old value:: All forestry is performed by private companies.
Current: Local governments are required to operate forestry agencies, which own and manage all forest land.
Proposed: There is a national agency which exists side-by-side with commercial forestry companies.
Article 13
Proposal[?] to change The right to gamble.
Old value:: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.
Current: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.
Proposed: The legality of gambling is a matter of local governments.
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: Consul
Current: Министр-президент Тригунская империи; tr. Ministr-Prezident Trigunskaya Imperii (Minister-President of the Trigunian Empire)
Proposed: Prime-Minister
Article 15
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on minimum wage regulation.
Old value:: There is no provision for a minimum wage.
Current: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Proposed: There shall be a minimum wage at a level that a single full time worker on it can adequately subsist.
Article 16
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning granting nationality (national of this state without implication of having citizenship rights).
Old value:: Only those born in this country or to nationals receive nationality.
Current: Only those born to nationals become nationals.
Proposed: Anyone receives nationality but immigrants must pass a test to gain nationality.
Article 17
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Article 18
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating what citizens can put into their bodies.
Current: Recreational drug use is regulated by local governments.
Proposed: Recreational drug use is regulated by local governments.
Article 19
Proposal[?] to change Singing the national anthem in schools.
Old value:: Children are never made to sing the national anthem.
Current: Children are made to sing the national anthem at the commencement of school each day.
Proposed: Children are not made to sing the national anthem, but are required to show respect when it is played at the commencement of school each day.
Article 20
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding sexually explicit material on broadcast television.
Old value:: All sexually explicit material is allowed on television.
Current: Sexually explicit material is not allowed, but nudity that is not sexually explicit is.
Proposed: Sexually explicit material is allowed, but violent or hard core pornography is banned.
Article 21
Proposal[?] to change The time at which sexually explicit content may be shown on broadcast television (if allowed).
Old value:: Sexually explicit content may be shown all day long.
Current: Sexually explicit content or nudity may only be shown during hours that very few children watch television
Proposed: Sexually explicit content may only be shown during hours that very few children watch. Nudity may be shown all day long.
Article 22
Proposal[?] to change Sale of tobacco products.
Old value:: There are no regulations on the sale of tobacco.
Current: There are certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco and only adults may purchase tobacco.
Proposed: There are certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco and only adults may purchase tobacco.
Article 23
Proposal[?] to change Waste disposal responsibility.
Old value:: Waste disposal is left entirely to the private sector but is regulated.
Current: The government is responsible for waste disposal.
Proposed: It is the responsibility of local governments to decide on waste disposal regulation.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 00:01:38, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | If you wish to discuss or change anything on this bill talk to me so we may reach a consensus because I may be too radical or federal. I hope you understand my reasons, Best Wishes Movement for Utopia Answer asap |
Date | 00:12:44, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | We support most of the articles in this bill. But there is one that we want more information about it (why so? is it good? etc.) And there are 2 others that we think it's not the best what you've proposed. We oppose: -Article 3: Why forbid child labour? I mean, come on, if they want to have a job to get some money for themself, why stop them? But of course with some regulations so the employer won't do what they want with those poor childrens. -Article 5: We think that at the age of 21 is too high, it's best for the nation to have educated inhabitants, but the age 18 would be better. After that when they're considered adult they may decide for themself. We want more information about Article 11, why so? etc. Give me the best information you can. |
Date | 00:16:51, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Article 3 and 5 will be changed. Article 11 Because these animals are brought in horrible conditions here and then maybe sold to a circus and abused. We could be promoting its endagerment. |
Date | 00:19:02, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | We're sorry for a lil confusion here. Don't change anything yet please, if you just did, change them back, we have to review things over here |
Date | 00:22:07, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | I believe that minors should be studying for a good place in society instead of being abused of in adult world. |
Date | 00:22:34, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | I believe that minors should be studying for a good place in society instead of being abused of in adult world. |
Date | 00:27:54, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | The Democratic Liberal Party disapprove for the following Articles: 1 (This has only recently been changed under one of our proposals) 7 (Keeping people in compulsary education in 21 will cause a lack of workers, due to the high numbers still in schooling) 8 (The right to keep one's own property is sacrosant) 10 (The Head of State shouldnt be hereditary. HOWEVER, we do approve of the Head of Goverment running the cabinet) 15 (This is just change for change's sake) 18 (This has only recently been changed under one of our proposals) 21 (Is it REALLY necessary to play the national anthem at the beginning of every school day?) 25 (36 months is already too short) If you were to put all these bills seperately, the Senate could discuss each on their own merit. |
Date | 00:34:10, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Elections should be done on a frequent basis for newcomers to receive seats Yes Head of State shouldnt be hereditary but this is the option that most fullfilled our ideals. Head of State should be like a supervisor to the Head of government actions. We are just giving opinions in order for others to visualize my ideals and therefore agree or not. National anthem should be played because patriotism is very important, many know not our anthem, we must thrive in teaching the next generation the way to Utopia. The way to success. The way to freedom. I hope you understand |
Date | 00:35:31, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Ok, we now support the article about child labour, we've reviewed and studied things here and it's ok so and as you just said, they should be studying for a good place in society. The post of DLP has encouraged us to review those articles that they disapprove, and our conclusion is like this: We also disapprove article: -1 -7 (in our first post we had this already, but you've changed things) -8 -18 (this one we wanted information about it) -21 -25 |
Date | 00:35:46, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Elections should be done on a frequent basis for newcomers to receive seats Yes Head of State shouldnt be hereditary but this is the option that most fullfilled our ideals. Head of State should be like a supervisor to the Head of government actions. We are just giving opinions in order for others to visualize my ideals and therefore agree or not. National anthem should be played because patriotism is very important, many know not our anthem, we must thrive in teaching the next generation the way to Utopia. The way to success. The way to freedom. I hope you understand |
Date | 00:43:49, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | 2 years is not a long enough time for effective decisions to be made, and laws to be passed. Singing a song is not necessary to be patriotic. |
Date | 00:44:29, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | 1. It is very distabling for a child to have gay or lesbian parents and they shall be influenced in being so. 7. you've agrred. What do you disagree. I want reasons. 8. In cases of death, serious dept, tax evasion, property should be seized to pay for dept. 18. Prisoners of War are a non-persona. If they prove to be loyal and fit to be our citizen. It should be freed. But prisoners of war is a strategic weapon and they could carry vital intelligence. 21. People must have respect for their country or else try to change it. I reviewed the anthem and it is highly patriotic and will induce these children with the motivation to do what is best for them and their nation. 25. Small parties do nothing for lots of time if legislatures are big. Non-seaters will be ignored and their ideals crushed. Give them a chance. |
Date | 00:44:43, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | 1. It is very distabling for a child to have gay or lesbian parents and they shall be influenced in being so. 7. you've agrred. What do you disagree. I want reasons. 8. In cases of death, serious dept, tax evasion, property should be seized to pay for dept. 18. Prisoners of War are a non-persona. If they prove to be loyal and fit to be our citizen. It should be freed. But prisoners of war is a strategic weapon and they could carry vital intelligence. 21. People must have respect for their country or else try to change it. I reviewed the anthem and it is highly patriotic and will induce these children with the motivation to do what is best for them and their nation. 25. Small parties do nothing for lots of time if legislatures are big. Non-seaters will be ignored and their ideals crushed. Give them a chance. |
Date | 00:47:03, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | ok, I submit to let 3 years of rule althugh if a unfair ruler comes to power, I'm not talking to you MDP you are the best ruler ever, we must request early elections for a fairer country. |
Date | 00:47:48, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Its the anthem. For goodness sake, it honours our country. |
Date | 00:48:07, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Its the anthem. For goodness sake, it honours our country. |
Date | 00:49:37, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Article 7: We think that at the age of 21 is too high, it's best for the nation to have educated inhabitants, but the age 18 would be better. After that when they're considered adult they may decide for themself. And what the DLP said: Keeping people in compulsary education in 21 will cause a lack of workers, due to the high numbers still in schooling. Still not enough reasons? |
Date | 00:51:21, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | OK, I agree. Do you wish me to perform the changes now?! |
Date | 00:52:01, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | OK, I agree. Do you wish me to perform the changes now?! |
Date | 00:53:18, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | OK, I agree. Do you wish me to perform the changes now?! |
Date | 00:54:43, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | 1. There is no evidence that gay or lesbian parents are not are good at parenting, or that children brought up by gay or lesbian parents, or more likely to be of the same sexuality 7. Many 21 year-olds would not want to be in compusary education. These people would be much more benefical to the country in employment. 8. Death is no reason to claim a property. Keeping the law would not alter the ability of banks etc to repossess houses to pay off debts. 18. PoWs do not want to be citizens of ours. They should be well looked after until they can be returned e.g. in a trade with our citzens who have been taken prisoner |
Date | 00:56:37, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | I agree to evidence on 7 and 18. I request more and more detailed reasons for 1 and 8 |
Date | 00:57:18, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Yes. And we now support the following articles too: 8 and 21. After discussing these I think you have a point there. But article 1 and 18 we still disapprove them. |
Date | 00:59:17, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | I would like to know your proposed solution for the PoWs Issue or Article 18 and more reasons for Eminent Domain issue or Article 8 |
Date | 00:59:38, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Sexuality is not a measure of parenting ability. The right of a child to good family is most important here |
Date | 01:01:35, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | My proposed solution is to leave them as they are. They have both been recently changed. |
Date | 01:02:03, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Dick+Dick or Vagina+Vagina do not fit. god created us ina way and we must follow it. Procriation is only for those that submit to straight sex. I agree with your family values. Sorry for the Language Continue the debate |
Date | 01:04:24, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Article 18 doesn't need a change from the current one and need to stay like this: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards. |
Date | 01:05:22, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | I believe we can reach a consensus on Eminent Domain but not on Adoption for Homosexuals. I am obliged to enquiry you why reject the childrens right to have a mother. If there was a option like find homosexual couples( a lesbian and a gay) and make them adopt together treating custody like a divorce or force these two to procriate |
Date | 01:07:25, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Why treat them well. They deserve to be punished for having such filthy ideals or attacking our country, if they embrace our society, we embrace them if not make them do the filthy jobs noone wants to do or torture or use them as prostitiutes |
Date | 01:08:25, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Tell me just if its a no or yes? |
Date | 01:16:49, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | At the moment, no. If you believe that God makes everyone, surely He makes gay people? |
Date | 01:22:59, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | a genetic mutation. God is the dna. He loves his sons as much as his daughters. They got the like-man side I shall remove this issue and I guess everything will become within consensus |
Date | 01:24:23, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | So long as the agreed changes are made, you have our vote |
Date | 01:26:01, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | May I ask, why is "The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials" not an acceptable option on (the now-called) Article 8? |
Date | 01:26:36, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | PoW shall be enslaved or conserve Eminent Domain? MDP we eed your opinion |
Date | 01:27:31, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Now there's one article more that need a change or should be remove too. Prisoners of war should be treated well, because they have rights like everyone else, human rights. And if we make them do what we want, it could make the situation worse with between the nations at war. |
Date | 01:27:36, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | changes are now occuring |
Date | 01:29:24, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Will the Head of State be hereditary or not? |
Date | 01:30:49, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Ignore that last comment |
Date | 01:31:05, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | No, but it should be symbolic! Any more desired changes before notification of non-participant parties and pos-electoral voting? |
Date | 01:33:12, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Article 23. And about Eminent Domain, it's ok like that, we support it. |
Date | 01:33:54, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | The length of the term need to be put back to 36 months. I'm not sure on the MDP's position on Eminent Domain |
Date | 01:34:28, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | The DLP are now happy to support |
Date | 01:34:49, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | I shall notify the Swedish Socialist Party and after elections voting shall commence |
Date | 01:37:05, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | What about an early election now? |
Date | 01:39:18, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Social and Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | There will be elections in 3 months. We're happy to wait |
Date | 01:44:17, February 12, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Democratic Party | To | Debating the Society Advancement Resolution |
Message | Ok with me. Btw after the election we're going to have a debate about the cabinet positions, send me a private message with the positions you want, and I'll use those in the proposal to begin the debate so we can form a fair cabinet. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes |
Total Seats: 449 | |||
no | Total Seats: 0 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 106 |
Random fact: Particracy allows you to establish an unelected head of state like a monarch or a president-for-life, but doing this is a bit of a process. First elect a candidate with the name "." to the Head of State position. Then change your law on the "Structure of the executive branch" to "The head of state is hereditary and symbolic; the head of government chairs the cabinet" and change the "formal title of the head of state" to how you want the new head of state's title and name to appear (eg. King Percy XVI). |
Random quote: "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." - Winston Churchill |