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Bill: Society Advancement Resolution

Details

Submitted by[?]: Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2359

Description[?]:

A bill to demonstrate the true vision of this party

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date00:01:38, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageIf you wish to discuss or change anything on this bill talk to me so we may reach a consensus because I may be too radical or federal.

I hope you understand my reasons, Best Wishes
Movement for Utopia

Answer asap

Date00:12:44, February 12, 2007 CET
From Moderate Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageWe support most of the articles in this bill. But there is one that we want more information about it (why so? is it good? etc.) And there are 2 others that we think it's not the best what you've proposed.

We oppose:
-Article 3: Why forbid child labour? I mean, come on, if they want to have a job to get some money for themself, why stop them? But of course with some regulations so the employer won't do what they want with those poor childrens.
-Article 5: We think that at the age of 21 is too high, it's best for the nation to have educated inhabitants, but the age 18 would be better. After that when they're considered adult they may decide for themself.

We want more information about Article 11, why so? etc. Give me the best information you can.

Date00:16:51, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageArticle 3 and 5 will be changed.

Article 11

Because these animals are brought in horrible conditions here and then maybe sold to a circus and abused. We could be promoting its endagerment.

Date00:19:02, February 12, 2007 CET
From Moderate Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageWe're sorry for a lil confusion here. Don't change anything yet please, if you just did, change them back, we have to review things over here

Date00:22:07, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageI believe that minors should be studying for a good place in society instead of being abused of in adult world.

Date00:22:34, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageI believe that minors should be studying for a good place in society instead of being abused of in adult world.

Date00:27:54, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageThe Democratic Liberal Party disapprove for the following Articles:

1 (This has only recently been changed under one of our proposals)
7 (Keeping people in compulsary education in 21 will cause a lack of workers, due to the high numbers still in schooling)
8 (The right to keep one's own property is sacrosant)
10 (The Head of State shouldnt be hereditary. HOWEVER, we do approve of the Head of Goverment running the cabinet)
15 (This is just change for change's sake)
18 (This has only recently been changed under one of our proposals)
21 (Is it REALLY necessary to play the national anthem at the beginning of every school day?)
25 (36 months is already too short)

If you were to put all these bills seperately, the Senate could discuss each on their own merit.

Date00:34:10, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageElections should be done on a frequent basis for newcomers to receive seats

Yes Head of State shouldnt be hereditary but this is the option that most fullfilled our ideals. Head of State should be like a supervisor to the Head of government actions.

We are just giving opinions in order for others to visualize my ideals and therefore agree or not.

National anthem should be played because patriotism is very important, many know not our anthem, we must thrive in teaching the next generation the way to Utopia. The way to success. The way to freedom.

I hope you understand

Date00:35:31, February 12, 2007 CET
From Moderate Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageOk, we now support the article about child labour, we've reviewed and studied things here and it's ok so and as you just said, they should be studying for a good place in society.

The post of DLP has encouraged us to review those articles that they disapprove, and our conclusion is like this:
We also disapprove article:
-1
-7 (in our first post we had this already, but you've changed things)
-8
-18 (this one we wanted information about it)
-21
-25

Date00:35:46, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageElections should be done on a frequent basis for newcomers to receive seats

Yes Head of State shouldnt be hereditary but this is the option that most fullfilled our ideals. Head of State should be like a supervisor to the Head of government actions.

We are just giving opinions in order for others to visualize my ideals and therefore agree or not.

National anthem should be played because patriotism is very important, many know not our anthem, we must thrive in teaching the next generation the way to Utopia. The way to success. The way to freedom.

I hope you understand

Date00:43:49, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
Message2 years is not a long enough time for effective decisions to be made, and laws to be passed.

Singing a song is not necessary to be patriotic.

Date00:44:29, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
Message1. It is very distabling for a child to have gay or lesbian parents and they shall be influenced in being so.

7. you've agrred. What do you disagree. I want reasons.

8. In cases of death, serious dept, tax evasion, property should be seized to pay for dept.

18. Prisoners of War are a non-persona. If they prove to be loyal and fit to be our citizen. It should be freed. But prisoners of war is a strategic weapon and they could carry vital intelligence.

21. People must have respect for their country or else try to change it. I reviewed the anthem and it is highly patriotic and will induce these children with the motivation to do what is best for them and their nation.

25. Small parties do nothing for lots of time if legislatures are big. Non-seaters will be ignored and their ideals crushed. Give them a chance.

Date00:44:43, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
Message1. It is very distabling for a child to have gay or lesbian parents and they shall be influenced in being so.

7. you've agrred. What do you disagree. I want reasons.

8. In cases of death, serious dept, tax evasion, property should be seized to pay for dept.

18. Prisoners of War are a non-persona. If they prove to be loyal and fit to be our citizen. It should be freed. But prisoners of war is a strategic weapon and they could carry vital intelligence.

21. People must have respect for their country or else try to change it. I reviewed the anthem and it is highly patriotic and will induce these children with the motivation to do what is best for them and their nation.

25. Small parties do nothing for lots of time if legislatures are big. Non-seaters will be ignored and their ideals crushed. Give them a chance.

Date00:47:03, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
Messageok, I submit to let 3 years of rule althugh if a unfair ruler comes to power, I'm not talking to you MDP you are the best ruler ever, we must request early elections for a fairer country.

Date00:47:48, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageIts the anthem. For goodness sake, it honours our country.

Date00:48:07, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageIts the anthem. For goodness sake, it honours our country.

Date00:49:37, February 12, 2007 CET
From Moderate Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageArticle 7: We think that at the age of 21 is too high, it's best for the nation to have educated inhabitants, but the age 18 would be better. After that when they're considered adult they may decide for themself. And what the DLP said: Keeping people in compulsary education in 21 will cause a lack of workers, due to the high numbers still in schooling.

Still not enough reasons?

Date00:51:21, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageOK, I agree. Do you wish me to perform the changes now?!

Date00:52:01, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageOK, I agree. Do you wish me to perform the changes now?!

Date00:53:18, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageOK, I agree. Do you wish me to perform the changes now?!

Date00:54:43, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
Message1. There is no evidence that gay or lesbian parents are not are good at parenting, or that children brought up by gay or lesbian parents, or more likely to be of the same sexuality

7. Many 21 year-olds would not want to be in compusary education. These people would be much more benefical to the country in employment.

8. Death is no reason to claim a property. Keeping the law would not alter the ability of banks etc to repossess houses to pay off debts.

18. PoWs do not want to be citizens of ours. They should be well looked after until they can be returned e.g. in a trade with our citzens who have been taken prisoner

Date00:56:37, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageI agree to evidence on 7 and 18. I request more and more detailed reasons for 1 and 8

Date00:57:18, February 12, 2007 CET
From Moderate Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageYes. And we now support the following articles too: 8 and 21. After discussing these I think you have a point there. But article 1 and 18 we still disapprove them.

Date00:59:17, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageI would like to know your proposed solution for the PoWs Issue or Article 18 and more reasons for Eminent Domain issue or Article 8

Date00:59:38, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageSexuality is not a measure of parenting ability. The right of a child to good family is most important here

Date01:01:35, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageMy proposed solution is to leave them as they are. They have both been recently changed.

Date01:02:03, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageDick+Dick or Vagina+Vagina do not fit. god created us ina way and we must follow it. Procriation is only for those that submit to straight sex.
I agree with your family values.

Sorry for the Language

Continue the debate

Date01:04:24, February 12, 2007 CET
From Moderate Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageArticle 18 doesn't need a change from the current one and need to stay like this: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.

Date01:05:22, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageI believe we can reach a consensus on Eminent Domain but not on Adoption for Homosexuals. I am obliged to enquiry you why reject the childrens right to have a mother. If there was a option like find homosexual couples( a lesbian and a gay) and make them adopt together treating custody like a divorce or force these two to procriate

Date01:07:25, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageWhy treat them well. They deserve to be punished for having such filthy ideals or attacking our country, if they embrace our society, we embrace them if not make them do the filthy jobs noone wants to do or torture or use them as prostitiutes

Date01:08:25, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageTell me just if its a no or yes?

Date01:16:49, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageAt the moment, no.

If you believe that God makes everyone, surely He makes gay people?

Date01:22:59, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
Messagea genetic mutation. God is the dna. He loves his sons as much as his daughters. They got the like-man side

I shall remove this issue and I guess everything will become within consensus

Date01:24:23, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageSo long as the agreed changes are made, you have our vote

Date01:26:01, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageMay I ask, why is "The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials" not an acceptable option on (the now-called) Article 8?

Date01:26:36, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessagePoW shall be enslaved or conserve
Eminent Domain?
MDP we eed your opinion

Date01:27:31, February 12, 2007 CET
From Moderate Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageNow there's one article more that need a change or should be remove too. Prisoners of war should be treated well, because they have rights like everyone else, human rights. And if we make them do what we want, it could make the situation worse with between the nations at war.

Date01:27:36, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
Messagechanges are now occuring

Date01:29:24, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageWill the Head of State be hereditary or not?

Date01:30:49, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageIgnore that last comment

Date01:31:05, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageNo, but it should be symbolic!

Any more desired changes before notification of non-participant parties and pos-electoral voting?

Date01:33:12, February 12, 2007 CET
From Moderate Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageArticle 23.

And about Eminent Domain, it's ok like that, we support it.

Date01:33:54, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageThe length of the term need to be put back to 36 months.

I'm not sure on the MDP's position on Eminent Domain

Date01:34:28, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageThe DLP are now happy to support

Date01:34:49, February 12, 2007 CET
From Orthodox Movement for a Utopian Society
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageI shall notify the Swedish Socialist Party and after elections voting shall commence

Date01:37:05, February 12, 2007 CET
From Moderate Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageWhat about an early election now?

Date01:39:18, February 12, 2007 CET
From Social and Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageThere will be elections in 3 months. We're happy to wait

Date01:44:17, February 12, 2007 CET
From Moderate Democratic Party
ToDebating the Society Advancement Resolution
MessageOk with me. Btw after the election we're going to have a debate about the cabinet positions, send me a private message with the positions you want, and I'll use those in the proposal to begin the debate so we can form a fair cabinet.

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