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Bill: Legislative Body Seats Increase

Details

Submitted by[?]: Liberal Democratic Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2360

Description[?]:

The Liberal Democratic Party wishes to bring this legislative issue to the Supreme Council for further discussion. We believe that the our fellow parties came to the consensus that there should be an increase in seats in the Supreme Council. However, the number of seats is where the issue became rather unpleasant.

We will put this behind us as an unglorified time and work for the future. We ask that all parties speak their minds while maintaining a respectable political correctness. This is ultimately the most important aspect for this discussion to succeed in full.

Moving on, we would ask for a reasonable increase that will suit our nation's needs. A large purge of seats is rather unwelcomed by our party as is a marginal increase. Therefore, we open this to debate.

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Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date23:50:32, February 13, 2007 CET
From Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Legislative Body Seats Increase
MessageAs the host of the debate, we will introduce our proposal first to the Supreme Council.

We believe that within the range of seats from 400 - 495 is most suitable. However, we would appreciate feedback from other parties as well.

While this discussion is early in its stages, we will note that while the number of seats proposed by a party will have some reasonable base to it, it is the numerical factor that will do most of the playing. Some numbers - in more relevant terms - merely sound more plausible.

This is what we propose. Thank you.

We now yield the floor.

Date23:55:30, February 13, 2007 CET
From United Democrats of Jakania
ToDebating the Legislative Body Seats Increase
MessageAs the United Democrats said in the first debate that covered this, I shall support no lower then 430, ideally I would like 475.

There is my feedback

Date00:08:28, February 14, 2007 CET
From Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Legislative Body Seats Increase
MessageThe L.D.P. thanks the UDA. The original debate's final seat count was 475 proposed by the L.D.P., which we will propose again.

The seat count of 475 seems reasonable to our party - it is in the upper 400s for those cautious on the extreme numerical value and centered for those unwilling to compromise on a lower number.

Date00:14:53, February 14, 2007 CET
From Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Legislative Body Seats Increase
MessageThe L.D.P. yields the floor.

Date01:05:54, February 14, 2007 CET
From Scientific Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Legislative Body Seats Increase
MessageWe do not particularly have much preference in the way of general numbers - it not really mattering - but we do suggest that whatever number we settle on be odd, to eliminate the possibility of deadlock. We would ideally be happy with 99 or 101 seats (which of course does have the obvious disadvantage of making any maths slightly more complicated). But if we're going to make the maths complicated by upping the numbers into the 400s anyway, we might as well eliminate deadlock while we're at it.

Therefore, we will support any number, so long as it is odd. Our whimsical nature likes the idea of a number ending in a 7, but that is not necessary.

Date12:38:03, February 14, 2007 CET
From Jakanian Liberal Socialists
ToDebating the Legislative Body Seats Increase
MessageWe agree that an increase in seats is a positive thing, and aids in ensuring adequate and efficient representation of our citizens.

However, we do still strongly believe that the seat total should be an even value. Should elections run close enough to otherwise give an equal number of seats to two (groups of) parties, we feel a tie is the most democratic result achievable in that political climate, as it requires consensus between the equally differing views of the representatives, and ultimately of the public. We should ensure that in as few situations as possible, that one 50% of our population can legislate over the other 50%.

Date17:55:46, February 14, 2007 CET
From Liberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Legislative Body Seats Increase
MessageIf an even number is what the case must be, then what about the seat count of 480?

Date18:20:25, February 14, 2007 CET
From United Democrats of Jakania
ToDebating the Legislative Body Seats Increase
MessageI can agree with 480

Date19:06:16, February 14, 2007 CET
From Jakanian Liberal Socialists
ToDebating the Legislative Body Seats Increase
MessageWe can support this.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 100

no
  

Total Seats: 0

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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