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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of January 2362

Details

Submitted by[?]: Jakania Citizens' Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2362

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date16:54:51, February 18, 2007 CET
FromUnited Democrats of Jakania
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2362
MessageEnjoy this while it lasts, next elections you will lose most of your power

Date16:56:27, February 18, 2007 CET
FromLiberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2362
MessageThis is an outrageous Cabinet, bent only on the destruction of Jakania. After the four parties that brought this nation out of a tyrannical dictatorship worked hard to construct a Cabinet that fit the people's best interests the JCP attempts to destroy it all.

This Cabinet does nothing but revert power back into a micro minority and leaves out the nation's other five parties that have power. This Cabinet has no basis and no reason. The JCP and SLP have done practically nothing in Jakania's government to aid the nation. The four parties that helped reestablish this nation have been the only parties to push this nation out of the despotic government and help modernize the nation to its fullest potential.

The parties included within this Cabinet have no experience what-so-ever in this nation. The only reason these two parties have power is because every nation that has just recently been freed of a one-party rule has akward and confusing-at-best elections. This Cabinet Proposal is horrid and will do nothing but give power to two parties that know nothing about our government and how to handle it.

Date18:42:00, February 18, 2007 CET
FromScientific Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2362
MessageThis is a choice between
a cabinet that excludes the three largest parties
versus
a cabinet that excludes the five smallest parties.
If you have a better idea, feel free to propose it. We're only voting yes on this because it more accurately reflects the balance of power than the previous one. If there's an even more accurate bill on the table, we would support it.

Date19:03:28, February 18, 2007 CET
FromLiberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2362
MessageThis is no way to make a cabinet accurate. When the Cabinet was made, the SLP had 0 seats. The JCP didn't even exist. The Cabinet that exists now is accurate.

If you disagree with the current Cabinet the SLP or JCP should propose a better one. This is not better, it is a pure form of tyrannical despotism that grants power to two large parties and denies it to 5 smaller parties that still make up nearly half of the legislative body.

By voting for this Cabinet doesn't make the situation better, only worse. The only backing your party has is that it's large. While that is something to consider, when we assembled the current cabinet we agreed to give seats as little notion as possible. Experience and proven actions were what made the cabinet that exists. The JLS had nearly the majority of the seats. However, they still compromised with smaller parties that could unite to form the majority. They based the distribution off of reasonable explanation. When the L.D.P. formed the cabinet, this was what we based the most heavily.

A party that votes for this bill isn't justifying itself, merely making itself look even worse than it does now with the five other parties. Voting for this bill isn't reasonable justification. Voting to put two parties in power just because the other four parties have power isn't justification. Voting for this just because there is nothing better is terrible. If there is nothing better, propose a new cabinet! Don't attempt to justify yourself with something you can't do that you truly can. If this is better than the current one, but you still don't agree with it, MAKE A NEW PROPOSAL! For years, one party or two has ruled. It is time to keep a sensible minority that combines to a majority in soul in power. The cabinet in power has been the responsible power that brought the 200 year despotic rule to an end.

But go ahead, be the first to disassemble the Cabinet that broke the chains of despotism and freed the nation.

Date23:46:34, February 18, 2007 CET
FromJakania Citizens' Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2362
MessageGuess the majority has spoken and its passed.

Date00:34:10, February 19, 2007 CET
FromScientific Libertarian Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2362
Message"If this is better than the current one, but you still don't agree with it, MAKE A NEW PROPOSAL"
The SLP would, except we really don't care about the Cabinet. It doesn't actually matter much. We don't care anywhere near enough to propose a new one. Plus, the onus is on the people who hate the new proposal to introduce an alternative, those of us who are ambivalent on the subject have no reason to do so.

Date01:26:53, February 19, 2007 CET
FromLiberal Democratic Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of January 2362
MessageYou make me sick.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 272

no
   

Total Seats: 131

abstain
  

Total Seats: 77


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