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Bill: Bomb or Be Bombed Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Justice League of Cildania
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2365
Description[?]:
| Okay do we really need nuclear bombs right now? Nah, we've got Captain Atom, who is like a flying nuke that can shoot beams of radiation from his fists. Plus there's me, who can pick up entire continents and throw them into space. I used to think I was invincible until some evil guy found some kryptonite. Did I give up and say "OK I promise I won't kill you with superbreath, let's be friends!"? No because some people don't want to be friends, some people are real jerks. What I did was I recruited Wonder Woman, and she kicked the guy's ass! Of course then somebody figured out how to beat the two of us, so we recruited more super help and won again. Soon we were super friends, then a super team, and now we're a whole super league. What's my point? My point is you can't give up on an arms race, promise to stay defenseless and appeal to everybody's good nature, because eventually they'll just destroy you or enslave you or whatever they feel like doing. To evil people who only listen to threats, you have to be a threat. You need to be able to develop and deploy threatening weapons. Just for defense though, you can't go off using this stuff to hurt innocent foreigners. If you did that, Captain Atom would go thermal-nuclear-war on your ass. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never develop, purchase or store biological or chemical weaponry.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Proposed: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of nuclear weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Current: The nation shall never use nuclear weapons in warfare.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to nuclear weapons in retaliation to a nuclear, chemical or biological attack.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The policy with respect to nuclear weaponry.
Old value:: The nation shall never develop, produce or store nuclear weaponry.
Current: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to develop, produce and store nuclear arms.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:08:01, February 20, 2007 CET | From |  Divine Party of the Republic | To | Debating the Bomb or Be Bombed Bill |
| Message | Our nation has spent years trying to enforce our own neutrality. We have a superior conventional force in our region simply because we have stopped wasting money on arms that are only of use as detterents. |
| Date | 19:08:53, February 20, 2007 CET | From | Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the Bomb or Be Bombed Bill |
| Message | Neutrality is great! These proposals only ensure our neutrality even further, they cause aggressors to think even harder before messing with our neutrality. But I gotta ask, what wastes more money as a deterrent: a superior conventional force or superior technology research? The bomb was used once in my reality. It was really sad because lots of innocent people were killed, but this country with supposedly superior conventional forces surrendered unconditionally within the week. They were imperialist aggressors, but what if they'd been the defenders? A bomb is just a tool, it can be used for good or for evil. Wouldn't you rather not have one dropped on us because the enemy wasn't afraid of reprisal? |
| Date | 19:16:46, February 20, 2007 CET | From | Union for a Responsible Republic | To | Debating the Bomb or Be Bombed Bill |
| Message | This proposal violates the Cildanian Neutrality Treaty. |
| Date | 23:24:02, February 20, 2007 CET | From | Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the Bomb or Be Bombed Bill |
| Message | Could you link that treaty? If a proposal violated a treaty, how could I have proposed them? |
| Date | 21:13:36, February 21, 2007 CET | From | Divine Party of the Republic | To | Debating the Bomb or Be Bombed Bill |
| Message | http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewtreaty.php?treatyid=431 |
| Date | 13:16:34, February 22, 2007 CET | From | One Cildania Party | To | Debating the Bomb or Be Bombed Bill |
| Message | Because Particracy's not that flashy yet. We of course will not be supporting this. War and passive-aggresion through developing nuclear weapons is nothing but a detriment to ongoing global peace. |
| Date | 07:25:59, February 25, 2007 CET | From | Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the Bomb or Be Bombed Bill |
| Message | You all should get your heads outta the sand before we're all radioactive. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 316 | ||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 109 |
| Random fact: Alduria, Rildanor and Lourenne all have Canrilaise (French) cultures. |
| Random quote: "This country has far more problems than it deserves and far more solutions than it applies." - Ralph Nader |