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Bill: Own, Conceal 'n Carry
Details
Submitted by[?]: Justice League of Cildania
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2365
Description[?]:
| Why are guns outlawed and restricted to designated areas? And not that it matters to a dude with X-ray vision, but if it's not cool for the federal government to outlaw concealed weapons, why is it okay for local ones to do it? Lots of people carry guns, and almost all of them are nice and just use the guns for emergency self-defense. But there are a few that don't care what the law is and wish to hurt or extort people. All this law would do is make it more dangerous for those defenseless people that follow the law. Let's let law-abiding citizens defend themselves, it oughtta be their right I say. Though I do agree people shouldn't have any weapon they want. This one time when Lex Luthor bought a fleet of M-1 tanks... that was a headache, nobody needs a fleet of tanks for self-defense. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Weapon concealment.
Old value:: Local governments may set and enforce concealed carry laws.
Current: People must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons.
Proposed: People must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Current: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Proposed: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, and there are further restrictions on places where they may be carried.
Current: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Proposed: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, but these may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:03:41, February 20, 2007 CET | From |  Divine Party of the Republic | To | Debating the Own, Conceal 'n Carry |
| Message | We don't support any concealed carry laws, they don't make any sense, if the point of carrying a gun is to prevent a crime, then let the potential criminal know you have one. We might actually be persuaded to support the second and articles. |
| Date | 19:21:58, February 20, 2007 CET | From | Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the Own, Conceal 'n Carry |
| Message | Well right, you would probably take out the weapon for potential criminals, but regular people get understandably nervous if they see weapons, so it's smart to keep them concealed until you might need it. Which of these proposals are you stuck on? |
| Date | 20:58:00, February 20, 2007 CET | From | Divine Party of the Republic | To | Debating the Own, Conceal 'n Carry |
| Message | The first... |
| Date | 23:27:09, February 20, 2007 CET | From | Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the Own, Conceal 'n Carry |
| Message | Okay, I could instead say Some categories of weapon must be carried openly, others may be concealed. or People must first obtain a permit in order to carry concealed weapons. -- which we like too because it keeps a decent database for easier crimefighting. |
| Date | 16:14:23, February 21, 2007 CET | From | Divine Party of the Republic | To | Debating the Own, Conceal 'n Carry |
| Message | We can agree with the permit. |
| Date | 13:20:23, February 22, 2007 CET | From | One Cildania Party | To | Debating the Own, Conceal 'n Carry |
| Message | We will never support relaxing of gun laws. Guns kill people. Pure and simple. It's just that nuclear weapon passive-agressiveness on a personal level isn't it? |
| Date | 07:30:18, February 25, 2007 CET | From | Justice League of Cildania | To | Debating the Own, Conceal 'n Carry |
| Message | Nice cliche, here's a few of my own: Guns don't kill people, people kill people. When you criminalize guns, only criminals will have 'em. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 316 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 109 |
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