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Bill: No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia
Details
Submitted by[?]: Likaton Coalition of the Willing
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2363
Description[?]:
| The LITP propose an emergency cabinet, to help prevent an international crisis. We ask that the AMRLP, the RWLP, the PLPL, and the SSP put aside any ideological differences and support this cabinet of Unity. We also ask that the AMRLP and the RWLP do not support the Facist Cabinet proposed, again, in the interests of putting peace ahead of personal gain. The LITP will continue to chair the cabinet, until the Likaton people choose otherwise. Thank you. |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the 
Likaton Coalition of the Willing
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the AM Populist Social Democrats
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the AM Radical Libertarian Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Right Wing Liberals Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Right Wing Liberals Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the AM Radical Libertarian Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the AM Radical Libertarian Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Socijal-Demokratska Partija
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the AM Populist Social Democrats
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Right Wing Liberals Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Socijal-Demokratska Partija
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Socijal-Demokratska Partija
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the AM Populist Social Democrats
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:56:18, February 20, 2007 CET | From | Democratic National Party | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | I'm sure the Libertarians and Right-Wing Liberals will vote against petty attempt by the LITP to form a sort slump coalition between parties they do not share ideological viewpoints with. Interesting that they remove themselves from government- it shows their desperation to keep libertarians, liberals and fascists out of government. This is just bribery. |
| Date | 20:29:07, February 20, 2007 CET | From | Democratic National Party | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | Restating again that greater likatonia is a peaceful, democratic initiative which has actually been supported publically by a party in Lodamun and privately by other parties. Do not let the LITP fool you into throwing away our chance to bring economic stability to Likatonia. |
| Date | 21:19:36, February 20, 2007 CET | From | AM Feminazi Movement | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | LFFR beleives the word cynical springs to mind. |
| Date | 22:31:11, February 20, 2007 CET | From | AM Populist Social Democrats | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | The RWL's are pacifistic and do not fit in with such aggressive militaristic parties as the LFFR and the CLP. They also have been pro-government programs, which would lead them to have problems with rightist ideology. The government programs we have are in place in large part due to the RWLs' support. The ARLP shares nearly nothing in common with the LFFR, as libertarianism and fascism are nearly opposite ideologies. The ARLP shares with this cabinet a desire for personal freedom; their differences are economic. They would have been in our previous cabinet proposal except that during certain months (OOC: real life weekends) their MP's have trouble making it to the Convocation, and we wanted a government of parties able to log in and vote for the cabinet. We trust and usually support the ARLP on foreign affairs, defense, agriculture, and police matters (i.e. Justice and Internal Affairs) among other things. In fact, besides our own party the ARLP would be our first choice for handling foreign or defense posts. |
| Date | 22:51:45, February 20, 2007 CET | From | Democratic National Party | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | The questions the RWLP and AMRLP should ask themselves before voting on this bill is -Have you been included in LFFR coalition proposals recently? -Have you been included in LITP coalition proposals recently? The fact of the matter is, these parties were exluded from LITP proposals because they are not ideologically compatible. Sure, the LITP and PopLibs need your support now but in the future, they will not include in government. On the other hand, both parties are ideologically compatitble with the CLP and I'm sure will work well and be in a stable coalition with a LFFR lead government. My promise to the AM Radical Libertarian Party is that I will only support a coalition that includes your party. Even if the CLP and LFFR, who both agree on Greater Likatonia were to gain enough seats to form a coalition, I would not support it without the AM Radical Libertarians becing part of that coalition because we are ideologically similar. We agree on economic policy and together it is us, along with the right-wing liberals and comprimising with the fascists in a right-wing government - it is us who will bring about economic prosperity in this country. Believe in change. Let's get things done. Don't be used by the left-wing who are only looking out for themselves and will back-stab you as soon as they get the seats. |
| Date | 22:57:07, February 20, 2007 CET | From | AM Populist Social Democrats | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | Actually, in the case of the RWLP they typically have been included in coalitions proposed by the PLPL, the LITP, and the SSP. And the AMRLP was only left out of our latest cabinet proposal (and other post-election proposals) for the exact reason I noted. We truly wanted to give them Defense, as we'd actually not prefer Defense to other positions except that given the opposition of the other coalition government members to any use of WMD's we felt we had to hold it to be prepared to use WMD's to retaliate in wartime. However, we'd have trusted the AMRLP with that slot. |
| Date | 23:04:40, February 20, 2007 CET | From | Democratic National Party | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | The real reason who've left the AMRLP and the RWLP out of cabinet proposals recently is because you had the seats to not include them and now you don't. Also I've heard reports that your coalitions have not always been stable. A coalition of right-leaning parties would actually bring about economic change. The number one goals of this party is to bring economic prosperity to Likatonia. To remove government involvement in the life of the individual. To bring about reform on education and health. And to DEMOCRATICALLY and PEACEFULLY campaign for greater likatonia in collaboration with the parties there. It's a long term goal not a short term goal and some parts of it may be achieved through good negotiations and diplomacy. |
| Date | 23:25:08, February 20, 2007 CET | From | AM Populist Social Democrats | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | Actually, in the case of the RWLP they typically have been included in coalitions proposed by the PLPL, the LITP, and the SSP. And the AMRLP was only left out of our latest cabinet proposal (and other post-election proposals) for the exact reason I noted. We truly wanted to give them Defense, as we'd actually not prefer Defense to other positions except that given the opposition of the other coalition government members to any use of WMD's we felt we had to hold it to be prepared to use WMD's to retaliate in wartime. However, we'd have trusted the AMRLP with that slot. |
| Date | 23:47:36, February 20, 2007 CET | From | Democratic National Party | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | The real reason who've left the AMRLP and the RWLP out of cabinet proposals recently is because you had the seats to not include them and now you don't. Also I've heard reports that your coalitions have not always been stable. A coalition of right-leaning parties would actually bring about economic change. |
| Date | 01:47:36, February 21, 2007 CET | From | Black People's Party | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | "Restating again that greater likatonia is a peaceful, democratic initiative which has actually been supported publically by a party in Lodamun and privately by other parties. Do not let the LITP fool you into throwing away our chance to bring economic stability to Likatonia." What Lodamunian party supports the idea of a Greater Likatonia? If a Lodamunian party publically supports this idea, how come we don't know about it? |
| Date | 07:36:51, February 21, 2007 CET | From | AM Feminazi Movement | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | There is a Lodamun Party that has expressed view somewhat favourable to a "Greater Likatonia." As for you question as to why you don't know about it, there are two likely reasons: 1. Your internal intelligence is a complete shambles. or 2. You have lost touch with the people in your country. In regards to this proposal, we are getting used to setting the political agenda for others to try to mimic. Remember, you can only blaze a trail for the first time once. |
| Date | 23:12:04, February 21, 2007 CET | From | Black People's Party | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | Actually the reason I didn't know was that they privately agreed to this idea not publically...but I now know which party. |
| Date | 08:39:23, February 22, 2007 CET | From | AM Feminazi Movement | To | Debating the No to Facism. No to Greater Likatonia |
| Message | With respect, they anounced it tepid support within one of our debates, therefore it was perhaps public in Likatonia but not widely known in Eastern Lik.. sorry, I mean Lodamun. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 94 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 86 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 19 |
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