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Bill: PLPL Manifesto of 2364
Details
Submitted by[?]: AM Populist Social Democrats
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2365
Description[?]:
| This is a list, as has become customary just before an election, some not always related proposals that we would like to present as a portion the PLPL platform. These bills rarely pass, but sometimes we are surprised. We will note that as to the drug article of the platform, it makes more drugs legal than a bill of the LITP's that we support, but it in no way changes the task forces or any other provision in the description of that bill. Furthermore, only marijuana, tobacco, and alcohol may be sold. The remainder of naturally occurring drugs are to be legal only if the owner grows them himself. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Tax percentage of the profit made by corporations.
Old value:: 7
Current: 15
Proposed: 12
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Energy regulation.
Old value:: Energy is provided by private companies which are not subject to any special regulations.
Current: Energy is provided by private companies but the prices they can charge are regulated.
Proposed: Energy provision is left to local governments.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning museum funding.
Old value:: The government leaves funding and operation of museums to local governments.
Current: The national government maintains a system of museums nationwide.
Proposed: The national government provides local governments with the funding to operate museums.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: Recreational drug use is forbidden.
Current: There are no laws regulating what citizens can put into their bodies.
Proposed: All naturally occurring drugs are legal.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government policy regarding housing.
Old value:: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Current: The state provides public housing to low-income families.
Proposed: All housing is private but rent is subsidised for low-income households.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:41:26, February 24, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the PLPL Manifesto of 2364 |
| Message | We like Article 4. We like Article 1. We like Article 3, as a step in the right direction. We are unhappy with Article 2, but consider it not too important, since it is dealing with a really broken issue to begin. We consider Article 5 to be a real mis-step. We wish the PLPL had taken a little time to separate these agenda points... as t is, we are probably going to be forced to abstain on the issue, since we are not sure we can endorse either of the voting platforms. |
| Date | 01:45:10, February 24, 2007 CET | From | Civil Liberties Party | To | Debating the PLPL Manifesto of 2364 |
| Message | We will have to think about this one because we already proposed a bill for energy regulation to be controlled by one nationalized company and therefore can not agree with Article 2. We do support the rest of the articles, but because of our disliking of Article 2 we will most likely end up voting no on this bill. We too wish the PLPL would have separated these a bit, but as of now we must abstain from voting. |
| Date | 02:05:16, February 24, 2007 CET | From | AM Populist Social Democrats | To | Debating the PLPL Manifesto of 2364 |
| Message | The reason we support Article 5 is that we know of various forms of housing policies that have been tried (OOC: in the USA). Public housing projects are typically run down slums. What has worked best are voucher programs, in which the government subsidizes the rent of poor families who live in the same complexes as others, such that if one chooses an apartment in the lowest-priced 30% of housing in the area, the government subsidizes rent such that no person or family must pay more than 30% of their after-tax income as rent. This leads to the best possible housing and allows people to live in better conditions. |
| Date | 02:14:33, February 24, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the PLPL Manifesto of 2364 |
| Message | The problem in the situation the PLPL suggests, is that the 'slum' factor is dependent on two other things, neither directly related to the properties being publically owned. First - such projects (OOC: especially in the US) have a tendency to turn into ghettoes, since they are often used as a means to remove 'trouble' populations. Ghettoes are too homogenised to be vital, and the project will suffer for this. Second - such projects are often designed to be minimal cost. Efficiency, effectiveness... such factors are secondary considerations to the 'bottom line'. So - what you end up with is property that is cheap (not just inexpensive), but it is nextdoor to more worthy structures. Property values spiral downwards, and there is no real incentive to maintain, because only 'shoddy' properties were ever released to begin with. Both problems can be avoided in a realistic approach - by opening up public occupancy of a variety of different properties, and by allowing a more natural and organic migration. |
| Date | 11:55:09, February 24, 2007 CET | From | Democratic National Party | To | Debating the PLPL Manifesto of 2364 |
| Message | That's right - drive industry and commerce out of the country. Corporation Tax has shot up from 7 to 12% in less than a year. Our short economic boom thanks to the policies of the Conservative Liberal Party and AM Radical Libertarian Party, backed by the Right Wing Liberals and Fascist Front will be completely reversed if this bill is passed. The left-wing are already trying, somewhat successfully to undue our brave economic reform - don't let them throw it all away. They'd rather live in a poor economic wasteland than a proposerous, progressive society. |
| Date | 12:01:25, February 24, 2007 CET | From | AM Populist Social Democrats | To | Debating the PLPL Manifesto of 2364 |
| Message | (sarcastic voice) Oh and of course corporate taxes of 12%...so confiscatory.... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 94 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 86 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 19 |
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