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Bill: Patriotism Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Democrats of Jakania
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2366
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National policy regarding the desecration of the national flag.
Old value:: There are no regulations regarding the desecration or use of the national flag.
Current: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Proposed: The national flag may not be desecrated or dishonoured.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:16:25, February 25, 2007 CET | From | Jakanian Liberal Socialists | To | Debating the Patriotism Act |
Message | While we consider ourselves a patriotic party, we believe it's important that a state works to earn its respect, rather than forcing it. We believe forced respect means nothing, and is not respect at all, and we're just infringing on our citizen's freedom. Instead, we should concentrate our efforts into creating a state our people can be proud of without their government coercing them to be. |
Date | 18:30:36, February 25, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Patriotism Act |
Message | We will write a response in the future due to some very inconvenient computer problems. |
Date | 21:18:06, February 25, 2007 CET | From | Independent party | To | Debating the Patriotism Act |
Message | I dont like the idea of people burning the national flag. I can understand it and i can support it if it is protest to change the nation than i can understand it somewhat, but i cannot understand it and support them if they just decide to burn it for the fun of it. |
Date | 23:06:24, February 25, 2007 CET | From | Scientific Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Patriotism Act |
Message | We oppose any and all limits on free speech. Also, flag burning can be a very effective way of stating that you don't like the government or the country. We can't think of any good reasons to limit it other than a general desire to clamp down on anarchist sentiment, which we find silly simply because we are sort of a party of anarchists. |
Date | 01:02:42, February 26, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Republican Party | To | Debating the Patriotism Act |
Message | What is desecration of the flag defined as? Is it burning the flag, or flying a torn one? This proposal has many loose ends. Also, in the United States,if one wishes to dispose of a flag, they are suppossed to burn it. |
Date | 20:40:28, February 26, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Patriotism Act |
Message | Preventing citizens the ability to show their opinions and voice their expressions will only anger them more than they may be already. We believe that freedoms in various categories should have a point to where the excessiveness is stopped, but this is a situation of utmost regards towards the topic of destroying, severing, and eviscerating citizen's common ground freedoms. A flag is a flag, it has no possession towards human qualities. While it should be respected it is the right of a citizen to overcome a preventing law with civil disobedience and practical points in law to be seperated as is. The government can and should not be able to massacre a citizen's rights to brutally. We do not think burning a flag is wise, especially one that means so much, but we do not believe in burning down citizen's rights for a flag's sake. |
Date | 20:46:40, February 26, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Patriotism Act |
Message | Also, we support the U.D.A.'s attempt to enforce response to legislation in voting if the respective party votes no. However, we feel that if the party that wishes to enforce explanations upon other parties they should make reasonable description within their bill as to why we should be persuaded to vote your way. A simple "!!!" doesn't mean anything to us and makes us speculate the seriousness your party has taken on this bill. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes | Total Seats: 67 | |||||
no |
Total Seats: 413 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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