We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: Budget adjustment of October 2366
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2367
Description[?]:
| The Liberal Party propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the Imperial Republic of Hobrazia. |
Proposals
Article 1
| Ministry | Current Budget | Old Budget | Propesed Budget |
| Head of Government | 200,000 HCR | 300,000 HCR | 300,000 HCR |
| Foreign Affairs | 600,000 HCR | 35,000,000,000 HCR | 35,000,000,000 HCR |
| Internal Affairs | 600,000,000 HCR | 65,000,000,000 HCR | 65,000,000,000 HCR |
| Finance | 42,000,000 HCR | 20,000,000,000 HCR | 20,000,000,000 HCR |
| Defence | 1,030,620,280 HCR | 140,000,000,000 HCR | 140,000,000,000 HCR |
| Justice | 106,820,865 HCR | 51,650,000,000 HCR | 51,650,000,000 HCR |
| Infrastructure and Transport | 60,800,260 HCR | 55,500,000,000 HCR | 55,500,000,000 HCR |
| Health and Social Services | 500,360,860 HCR | 85,000,000,000 HCR | 85,000,000,000 HCR |
| Education and Culture | 260,820,560 HCR | 81,000,000,000 HCR | 81,000,000,000 HCR |
| Science and Technology | 120,300,200 HCR | 45,000,000,000 HCR | 45,000,000,000 HCR |
| Food and Agriculture | 100,600,850 HCR | 25,000,000,000 HCR | 23,000,000,000 HCR |
| Environment and Tourism | 130,200,567 HCR | 30,000,000,000 HCR | 30,000,000,000 HCR |
| Trade and Industry | 400,000,000,000 HCR | 20,000,000,000 HCR | 20,000,000,000 HCR |
| Total | 402,953,324,442 HCR | 653,150,300,000 HCR | 651,150,300,000 HCR |
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:48:10, February 28, 2007 CET | From |  Liberal Party | To | Debating the Budget adjustment of October 2366 |
| Message | Does the Alliance find this more agreeable? We apologize for not consulting you earlier, it was a little hasty on our part. |
| Date | 08:43:01, February 28, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Budget adjustment of October 2366 |
| Message | We would like to point out that your constant adjustments to government expenditure have harmed our economy. This is clearly seen by the 2bn HCR drop in income via the luxury goods tax, not to mention the 50bn HCR drop consumption. Interesting to note that these great ideas to save people money have actually led to less money being spent and a shriking of the economy as a whole. |
| Date | 13:26:56, February 28, 2007 CET | From | First Party Of Hobrazia | To | Debating the Budget adjustment of October 2366 |
| Message | yes |
| Date | 06:36:46, March 01, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Budget adjustment of October 2366 |
| Message | Fortunately, our party has been premature, our budget shortfall was short-lived, and we are now back in a surplus situation. We will use the money saved from this proposal to finance further tax cuts, and put more money into the pockets of Hobrazians. And that is what our Party will continue to do throughout our term. "We would like to point out that your constant adjustments to government expenditure have harmed our economy. This is clearly seen by the 2bn HCR drop in income via the luxury goods tax, not to mention the 50bn HCR drop consumption. Interesting to note that these great ideas to save people money have actually led to less money being spent and a shriking of the economy as a whole." We would like to point out that those decreases are the result of YOUR party's proposals in the previous budget before ours was implemented. It is entirely unfair to attribute your own failings to our party. |
| Date | 09:09:50, March 01, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Budget adjustment of October 2366 |
| Message | "We would like to point out that those decreases are the result of YOUR party's proposals in the previous budget before ours was implemented. It is entirely unfair to attribute your own failings to our party." Nice try, but not true. After the budget implemented by THIS Party there had been no decreases in GDP and consumption had remained consistent. It was after further meddling directly after that effected the economy further and so decreased the confidence of the people as to how to spend their money that there was a negative effect on the economy. |
| Date | 10:53:15, March 01, 2007 CET | From | Capitalizt Party | To | Debating the Budget adjustment of October 2366 |
| Message | OOC - WSS!P, I'm quite sure you are aware of the almost non-existant economics mechanisms, aren't you. |
| Date | 14:26:03, March 01, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Budget adjustment of October 2366 |
| Message | OOC - Of course, but where would be the interest in playing and accepting a non-existant mechanism? Also, if you remember many many (game) years ago, LPU and I had a bit of fun with some of the tax bands just to see if they made any difference. They do, but it's so milliscule that they almost might not as well bother. |
| Date | 02:40:08, March 02, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Party | To | Debating the Budget adjustment of October 2366 |
| Message | "Nice try, but not true. After the budget implemented by THIS Party there had been no decreases in GDP and consumption had remained consistent. It was after further meddling directly after that effected the economy further and so decreased the confidence of the people as to how to spend their money that there was a negative effect on the economy." Yet again, you mis characterize our economic situation. The effects of your budget do not necessarily have to take immediate effect. As evidenced by our most recent budget proposal, the immediate effect was somewhat negative, but since have proved to be positive as our economy continues to grow and the gov't continues to gain more and more revenue. |
| Date | 09:03:28, March 02, 2007 CET | From | We Say So! Party | To | Debating the Budget adjustment of October 2366 |
| Message | Yes, thanks to the ever growing Hobrazian population. Aren't you lukcy it isn't in decline. We would still point out that sales tax revenues still haven't reached their pre-Liberal budget amount proving that the people still don't have the confidence in the economy they once had. |
subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe
Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 196 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 151 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 50 |
| Random fact: It is the collective responsibility of the players in a nation to ensure all currently binding RP laws are clearly outlined in an OOC reference bill in the "Bills under debate" section of the nation page. Confusion should not be created by displaying only some of the current RP laws or displaying RP laws which are no longer current. |
| Random quote: "When anger rises, think of the consequences." - Confucius |