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Bill: Freedom bus stopping at a church near you.
Details
Submitted by[?]: AM Feminazi Movement
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2370
Description[?]:
| Religion. It exists. It will never be expunged. So why do we continue to repress it? Let's open the doors and include the religious elements rather than excluding, marginalizing and ostracizing this minority. The official state religion will be the only true religion of Terra, "The Tears of Termani". Peace, Sven. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: The government selectively screens which religions are permitted to send missionaries to the nation. Certain religions are approved and travel is unregulated.
Current: The government determines which missionaries are permitted to visit on a person by person basis.
Proposed: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state appoints all heads and other ministers of all religions.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Current: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Proposed: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: All religious income, despite the use, is taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are not allowed.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: All schools are required to be religious in nature.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religions shall be regulated by the law, but shall be borne by the religious communities themselves.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:30:40, March 04, 2007 CET | From | Civil Liberties Party | To | Debating the Freedom bus stopping at a church near you. |
| Message | Surely this is a joke...? |
| Date | 10:45:17, March 05, 2007 CET | From | AM Feminazi Movement | To | Debating the Freedom bus stopping at a church near you. |
| Message | A comment we are truly suprised to hear from, of all parties, the CLP. Removing the state from interfering in the appointment of ministers? Stopping unfair taxation on religions ? Removing government interference in the payment of religions ministers? Allowing religions to freely advertise themselves? Removing government dictates on what religions can visit our country? The "Civil Liberties Party" does not seem to be supportive of the Civil liberties we are trying to introduce here. We can understand the objection to an official state religion but on balance we had thought there was more in this bill for them than what they would push against. Regardless Termani demands a vote on this now. |
| Date | 12:17:19, March 05, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Freedom bus stopping at a church near you. |
| Message | If the Civil Liberties Party are especially worried about the 'mandatory state religion', they are not the only ones. The Axis Mundi Revolution intends to oppose such behaviour first and foremost. Should the AM LRM manage a majority here, and push through such insanity, the Revolution will immediately call exactly opposite legislation. (Indeed, we will also vote on 'compromise' legislation that overthrows mandatory religion, even if it doesn't head as far into 'secularity' as we would like. Opposing mandatory religion is one of our core issues.) |
| Date | 12:18:00, March 05, 2007 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Freedom bus stopping at a church near you. |
| Message | Again, we have voted 'no' only because the 'hell, no!' option seems to have been left off of the ballot papers. |
| Date | 17:51:14, March 05, 2007 CET | From | AM Populist Social Democrats | To | Debating the Freedom bus stopping at a church near you. |
| Message | Yes, our party has been looking for the "hell, no" option as well, but are unable to find it. |
| Date | 18:26:53, March 05, 2007 CET | From | Civil Liberties Party | To | Debating the Freedom bus stopping at a church near you. |
| Message | We too, look for this, "Hell no!" button, but upon discovering that no such button exists, a simple "No" will suffice. And to the AM LRM: We of the Civil Liberties Party do support one's right to be apart of a religion and we have pushed in the past for less government involvement in religious matters, including Article 2. However, the rest of the articles you present are downright disgraceful to a free nation, such as Likatonia, and yes, I purposely call it that. Overall, as a matter of protecting civil liberties, we must vote a resounding no; and we ask again, just to fulfill our own curiosity: is this bill a joke? |
| Date | 20:05:07, March 05, 2007 CET | From |  Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Freedom bus stopping at a church near you. |
| Message | The LITP support this Bill, however we will be drafting a counterpoint shortly. |
| Date | 08:30:35, March 06, 2007 CET | From | AM Feminazi Movement | To | Debating the Freedom bus stopping at a church near you. |
| Message | Do not mock the Greatness of Termani CivLibs.. She is omnipotent. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 54 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 86 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 59 |
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| Random quote: "The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves." - Henry Kissinger |