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Bill: Foreign policy II
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Forces of Decay
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2370
Description[?]:
| So what about this? It should not be the problem of the government, what kind of people want to live in the country. The government just hast to make sure that these are no dangerous people and therefore we have other laws and the border controls. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning immigration.
Old value:: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Current: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Proposed: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The national refugee policy.
Old value:: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; no aid is given to them.
Current: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.
Proposed: All refugees are welcome but no financial aid is given to them.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:04:32, March 05, 2007 CET | From |  Christian Democratic Alternative | To | Debating the Foreign policy II |
| Message | You want to welcome uneducated people, without giving them right to education or means to live their own life here. In the Netherlands we also left the borders open for migrants, without integrating them. We now have multicultural conflicts. No, I am proponent of a restrictive immigration policy. You should at least retain quotas. |
| Date | 00:44:37, March 06, 2007 CET | From | New Democratic Party | To | Debating the Foreign policy II |
| Message | [Netherlands...no wonder he's a fascist... :P] Why do not you want people to come to your country if it is as great as you say? Do you mean to say that in the Netherlands the citizens are not granted the right to a free public education? I thought the EU fixed problems like that. Put yourself in the other place and see what you would want. |
| Date | 15:43:16, March 06, 2007 CET | From | Christian Democratic Alternative | To | Debating the Foreign policy II |
| Message | In the Netherlands we allowed people to come to our country, but out of the assumption that they would stay only temporarily. Migrants were offered nothing but basic amenities. They stayed permanently and now suffer from social deprivation due to lack of care and unrestricted new immigration. If you want migrants to come here, you must also offer them education or help. If you are not willing or capable to do that, you must only accept a limited amount of highly educated migrants (which actually happens in Australia, the USA and other traditional immigrant countries; green cards). In the Netherlands migration was not restricted for 30 years and it expanded because immigrant workers sent for their families. The Netherlands (being already densely populated) just wasn't ready to take in so many people. Fortuyn (if he's the person you associate with Dutch "fascism") spoke the words many Dutchmen had wanted to say. Integration had failed because the government continued to deny that there was improper care for their integration into Dutch society. Perhaps the NDP leader should have a closer look in the Dutch slums instead of admiring Amsterdam's architecture (if he has been in the Netherlands, which I doubt sincerely). |
| Date | 20:21:14, March 06, 2007 CET | From | United Forces of Decay | To | Debating the Foreign policy II |
| Message | (Amsterdam is a beautiful city by the way. And I've only been to Amsterdam, but people there seemed really nice...) |
| Date | 22:21:01, March 06, 2007 CET | From | Christian Democratic Alternative | To | Debating the Foreign policy II |
| Message | To United forces of decay: I'm glad you liked Amsterdam. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 44 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 81 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: When forming a cabinet, try to include as few parties as possible, while still obtaining a majority of the seats. |
| Random quote: "I think it's about time we voted for senators with breasts. After all, we've been voting for boobs long enough." - Clarie Sargent |