Main | About | Tutorial | FAQ | Links | Wiki | Forum | World News | World Map | World Ranking | Nations | Electoral Calendar | Party Organizations | Treaties |
Login | Register |
Game Time: April 5474
Next month in: 01:16:37
Server time: 06:43:22, April 24, 2024 CET
Currently online (1): ADM Drax | Record: 63 on 23:13:00, July 26, 2019 CET

We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.

Bill: Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union

Details

Submitted by[?]: Covenanters (IA)

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: April 2371

Description[?]:

This bill asks for the ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date01:20:59, March 08, 2007 CET
FromImperium et Libertas Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageCan you clarify whether this bill will commit us to deploying military forces?

Date02:18:10, March 08, 2007 CET
FromNational Imperial Hobrazian Front
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageIt does require any military aid. However, we would hope you would consider this since we are both Axis nations.

Date08:52:08, March 08, 2007 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageLet us make this clear: our membership of the Axis carries military obligations to our allies. If two thirds of the Imperial Council supported ratifying the Axis Agreement then the two thirds should still show their support when it is time to fulfil our responsibilities as an Axis power.

Date12:23:20, March 08, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
Message"The logic of the Axis Bible and Crown Defenders seems skewed. Are you saying that as long as a nation is a member of the Axis Agreement you would support everything they do? It is comforting to know that if we ever wish to launch a genocide of our Christian population all we have to do is join the Axis and we will be safe from retribution."

-- Nasi shel-ha-Aretz ha-Muvtahat Yíšay Yéhôšaphát Yišsérles

Date12:35:11, March 08, 2007 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageLuthori parties need to ask themselves 'what does the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union have to do with the Fifth "Jewish" Homeland of Beiteynu?'

We must stand up for the sovereignty of our Axis allies: the very principle of self determination is at stake here!

Date13:25:12, March 08, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
Message"Your party is as ridiculous as the false Messiah you worship. It has everything to do with us, the Darnussians are our kin just over the Migrant's Pass, our past intertwine and most importanty it is to do with us as we are the only ones willing to stand up for those being oppressed by the Hobrazians. You talk of self determination yet you clearly have no knowledge of the subject. Where is the self determination in an political invasion force signing over political control to a foreign power? Where is the self determination is imposing a religion that 8% of the population follow as mandatory? The UnHoly Luthori Empire should perhaps spend less time butchering the Torah with a fictional sequel and more time looking at what is going on in the world."

-- Nasi shel-ha-Aretz ha-Muvtahat Yíšay Yéhôšaphát Yišsérles

Date13:39:17, March 08, 2007 CET
FromFalanges Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageDid the parties who did not support the banning of jew religion in our Holy Empire (a resolution i proposed time ago), understood my aim of it, and the dangers that jews can have on society?

Date13:39:22, March 08, 2007 CET
FromCatholic Justicial Party - Solidarity
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageThe ugly face of Zionist supremacism and anti-Christian sentiment has been reared here. Of course, it's perfectly politically correct to attack Christianity, but other religions are protected by the PC police and the liberal-multiculturalists. The CJP calls on Luthori parties to rally around the Cross and the Empire.

"Fictional sequel to the Torah", indeed!

Date13:40:13, March 08, 2007 CET
FromFalanges Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageNice one CJP!!!

Date13:41:53, March 08, 2007 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageIt would be nice if you could both back up this anti-Zionist sentiment with yes votes!

Date13:47:03, March 08, 2007 CET
FromCatholic Justicial Party - Solidarity
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageDone. We were a litte confused by the whole Darnussian situation so we took the safer option of voting against. We have now switched our vote. But it isn't because of anti-Zionism; it's about defending Christianity. Zionism on its own is morally acceptable; Zionist-chauvinism is the enemy.

Date13:48:17, March 08, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
Message"A fictional sequel to the Torah indeed! Furthermore the Catholic Justicial Party shows their ignorance of anything other than molesting choirboys with their statement on religious persecution, was it not the Jewish people that had their land occupied for 50 years? Was it not the Buddhists that were subject to genocide in Keymon, Gaduridos and your very own UnHoly Empire? Was it not the Muslim and Tritist Kafuris that the Deltarian tried to wipe out? Meanwhile the Christians of Terra have been sitting rather happily; free from persecution. However that is not the issue here. What is the issue is that Luthori is getting involved in an issue it knows nothing about and has no place in simply on the basis of a loose treaty that they happened to have ratified. We once again ask you to rethink the issue and withdraw your support for oppression and genocide."

-- Nasi shel-ha-Aretz ha-Muvtahat Yíšay Yéhôšaphát Yišsérles

OOC: "but other religions are protected by the PC police and the liberal-multiculturalists"

Stop confusing real life with particracy, if you knew anything about what goes on here you would know how wrong that statement is.

Date13:52:34, March 08, 2007 CET
FromCatholic Justicial Party - Solidarity
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageYou ask us to rethink, after subjecting us to your vitriolic anti-Catholic rhetoric. Un faux pas, mon ami.

Date13:54:32, March 08, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
Message"We don't speak Kanjoran."

-- Nasi shel-ha-Aretz ha-Muvtahat Yíšay Yéhôšaphát Yišsérles

Date13:55:27, March 08, 2007 CET
FromCatholic Justicial Party - Solidarity
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageYour loss, I'm afraid, then.

Date14:06:11, March 08, 2007 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageWhy do our honourable friends in the Imperial, Redneck and National Socialist Labour parties want us to stand by while these people who call themselves Jews attack our allies and our own Christian parties?

Date16:30:22, March 08, 2007 CET
FromImperium et Libertas Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageWe have no problem with Jews. Our leader went to school with a Jew. Bloody nice chap he was and all. But we're damned if we're going to be told to do by some bloody foreigner.

Date16:41:43, March 08, 2007 CET
FromImperium et Libertas Party
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageOOC: ¡Ma'avak! (Beta Yišsérles)- Yes, but the false claims of oppression by the privileged is a standard part of political discourse. See the British landed gentry, who do this all the time. So it's a legitimate IC comment, even if not true.

Date16:50:15, March 08, 2007 CET
From Ma'avak
ToDebating the Ratification of the Recognition of the Hobrazian - Darnussian Union
MessageOOC: Fair enough I guess, I was just making the point that basically everyone in Terra gets screwed whatever religion they are, however I can see how it would work as a propoganda type statement, I guess I just go carried away!

Oh and whilst I'm OOCing it, @ABCD, Nationalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei is National Socialist Workers Party not National Socialist Labour Party.

subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe

Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 80

no
    

Total Seats: 75

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


    Random fact: Particracy isn't just a game, it also has a forum, where players meet up to discuss role-playing, talk about in-game stuff, run their own newspaper or organisation and even discuss non-game and real-life issues! Check it out: http://forum.particracy.net/

    Random quote: "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead

    This page was generated with PHP
    Copyright 2004-2010 Wouter Lievens
    Queries performed: 80