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Bill: Parliamentary Reform Bill, Try 2
Details
Submitted by[?]: AM Populist Social Democrats
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2374
Description[?]:
| Whereas, The previous bill of this nature was defeated only because a party in favor had been unable to vote on the issue and has promised to vote for it if raised again, and Whereas, Since this bill's third article now is a return to the 199 seat Convocation that has worked for us for years, which could not be proposed when the official parliament size was still 199-- and some who opposed it may have opposed it for the reason that it was an increase in Convocation size, We hereby re-propose these reforms, albeit with a return to a 199 seat Convocation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The number of proposals a party can introduce per year (will be handed out as a monthly quota).
Old value:: 12
Current: 20
Proposed: 15
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The maximum proposal quota a party can accumulate.
Old value:: 12
Current: 50
Proposed: 9
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 666
Current: 75
Proposed: 199
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:27:08, March 13, 2007 CET | From |  Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Parliamentary Reform Bill, Try 2 |
| Message | We are struggling to support Article 3. Perhaps we culd be persuaded.... |
| Date | 22:41:15, March 13, 2007 CET | From | AM Populist Social Democrats | To | Debating the Parliamentary Reform Bill, Try 2 |
| Message | Well, first you should consider how much money is wasted to pay many, many more leglislators than we actually need; plus, since the highest number of MP's the Convocation building has held is 351, there would be additional costs to enlarge the building to accomodate nearly double that number. Also, while 333 as a tie and 334 as a majority are fairly easy to remember, they are not equally easy to calculate. Furthermore, Huge parliaments create ridiculous numbers, even with the same percentages. Big parties might manage 200+ seats and even little parties will have at least 40. However, 40 seats today would mean a lot of infliuence, but 40 seats in the 66 seat Convocation would mean a party had been trounced. If we get trounced, we cannot even regroup in our old phone booth; we must continue paying for office space. |
| Date | 00:12:00, March 14, 2007 CET | From | Likaton Coalition of the Willing | To | Debating the Parliamentary Reform Bill, Try 2 |
| Message | We feel that the people deserve as much representation as possible; surely one convocation member per 136000 voters isn't exactly over staffed? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 102 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 84 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 13 |
| Random fact: The use of proxy servers makes it impossible to detect multiing and is therefore forbidden. Players who access Particracy through a proxy will have their accounts inactivated. |
| Random quote: "A return to first principles in a republic is sometimes caused by the simple virtues of one man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example." - Niccolo Machiavelli |