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Bill: communist act #7
Details
Submitted by[?]: Libertarian party of Darnussia
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2085
Description[?]:
| Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations beceause the current system still allows a bourgeouisie to exploit the workers. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The state owns the commanding heights of the economy and all major industries, but private ownership is allowed in the minor industries.
Current: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Proposed: All industry is owned and operated by the state.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:27:54, July 23, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the communist act #7 |
| Message | State-Capitalism does not work. |
| Date | 00:05:49, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the communist act #7 |
| Message | NAY! |
| Date | 01:10:52, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the communist act #7 |
| Message | state-capitalism :D very funny term :P sorry always gets me laughing again! All written by people who see theory's not practise! try in this damned capitalist world to uphold socialism! It's impossible without at leats a little centralization, when capitalism is abolished world-wide i might compromise... |
| Date | 01:43:40, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the communist act #7 |
| Message | But the state owning all the industry is not right anyway, maybe if it was worded in to be "owned by the workforce" then I might be more interested, Besides, are we going to ban strikes and unions because they would be opposing the bossses of the industry, i.e the Government/State? |
| Date | 11:16:21, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the communist act #7 |
| Message | Making up my mind.... The problem with this is that macro-economics on this scale is incredibly difficult to control. Also basic commodities are better produced by small traders and artisans. If you can persuade me otherwise I might support this but.... |
| Date | 16:30:55, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the communist act #7 |
| Message | state-ownership does not mean economic centralization, it rather means the state can use the rest-capita for purposes such as the free healthcare we offer. it is better for our people and economy in that sence. Off course the companies can still be controlled by the workers by electing they're manager or appointing a manager by the government. Not all state-ownership is like Stalin's state-ownership, you still have Trotsky, Bukharin and Lenin's ways. |
| Date | 16:31:45, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the communist act #7 |
| Message | to SDP: no we're not going to ban them since that way the workers can make clear what they think should be changed. |
| Date | 20:08:00, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the communist act #7 |
| Message | or at elast i woulkd not vote in favor :D |
| Date | 21:06:46, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the communist act #7 |
| Message | with that i mean no we're not going to vote in favor on a ban of such, |
| Date | 22:58:37, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Vuloch Ca Korzia | To | Debating the communist act #7 |
| Message | Not really convinced either way but meh. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 357 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 345 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 48 |
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