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Bill: Anti-mandatory-military-service bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Forces of Decay
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2376
Description[?]:
| We are in favour of a strong military force, but we don't think a mandatory military service is necessary to achieve this. We demand quality, not quantity concerning our military. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve either a term in the military or a lesser paid term of civilian national service, at their option.
Proposed: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:05:28, March 16, 2007 CET | From | Centrist Party | To | Debating the Anti-mandatory-military-service bill |
| Message | Military is one of the best way (not the only however) to create character in as little amount of time, and you also gain tremendous leadership and teamwork abilities as well as learn the importance of civic responsabilities. It won't make you into a perfect gentleman, that is for sure, but it has great benefits. Plus your proposition is essentially a draft in times of war. That would mean that the US would have a draft right now and would have had it since 2001. And so would Britain for that matter. |
| Date | 19:20:48, March 16, 2007 CET | From | United Forces of Decay | To | Debating the Anti-mandatory-military-service bill |
| Message | What kind of benefits for example? And by the way, we don't think that the government should have any interest in these great benefits of a military service. A military force should be effective, and that's a question of weapons and combat strength of the soldiers, and not of military service. We don't have a problem with forcing people to do something, contrariwise we are in favour of slavery, but if you want people to do some work for the state there are other, more suggestive things you could need them for, like building monuments, palaces, temples etc. |
| Date | 10:33:46, March 17, 2007 CET | From | "Le Chaim" - Aesthetic Party | To | Debating the Anti-mandatory-military-service bill |
| Message | Ha! Create character? Gain tremendous leadership and teamwork abilities? Learn the importance of civil responsibilities? I had to do mandatory military service for eight months and I can tell you don't learn any of those "advantages". If a young man doesn't have leadership and teamwork abilities and whatever else he won't learn it in the military, believe me. We are totally against any form of mandatory military or civil service. That is our of time... |
| Date | 22:05:15, March 17, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the Anti-mandatory-military-service bill |
| Message | I don't think that after the completion of school that adults must serve in the military. It is a waste of years where they could be earning proper money and making a living. I agree that we should scrap this but to still have it in times of war. A speech made by Mr Phillip Barnwood |
| Date | 00:51:37, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Anti-mandatory-military-service bill |
| Message | It's fine how it is. |
| Date | 02:34:29, March 18, 2007 CET | From | New Democratic Party | To | Debating the Anti-mandatory-military-service bill |
| Message | I agree with the comments made by my right honourable friend and point out to him that the proposed bill is an improvement on the current status, and I thus exhort him to vote in favour of this bill. |
| Date | 22:00:04, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Anti-mandatory-military-service bill |
| Message | Le Chaim have voted in favour of this??? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 117 | ||||||
| no | Total Seats: 8 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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