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Bill: Citizens Health Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: United Democrats of Jakania
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2376
Description[?]:
| Amendments to the current law |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards alcoholic beverages.
Old value:: Alcoholic beverage regulations are not imposed by the government.
Current: The sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages is outlawed.
Proposed: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, and can only be available to adults.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Pharmaceutical drugs policy.
Old value:: The government does not subsidise the cost of pharmaceutical drugs at all.
Current: The government subsidises the cost of pharmaceutical drugs for people on low incomes.
Proposed: The government pays for all citizens' pharmaceutical drugs.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The recreational drug policy.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating what citizens can put into their bodies.
Current: Recreational drug use is forbidden.
Proposed: Recreational drug use is forbidden.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Sale of tobacco products.
Old value:: There are no regulations on the sale of tobacco.
Current: The sale of tobacco products is prohibited.
Proposed: There are certain restrictions on the sale of tobacco and only adults may purchase tobacco.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:41:10, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | The "Integral Reform of Jakania I" already covers much of this material. We urge the U.D.J. to reconsider many of these Articles for they are repetition of an already existing bill. |
| Date | 20:48:08, March 18, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | ~edited, repeated articles have been removed~ |
| Date | 20:51:56, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | Article 2 is in the "Integral Reform of Jakania I" bill. |
| Date | 21:06:58, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | We don't agree with Article 3. Articles 1 and 4 we're unsure about. Article 2 we support whole-heartedly. If the U.D.J. can make a convincing argument to defend their bill, we'll vote yes. |
| Date | 21:19:36, March 18, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | Its like the U.S.A way to buy alcoholic beverages. The person who wishes to buy them has to get a license. If they get one it would probably require them to say that nothing harmful is put into the beverage. Second, you would prefer it if kids could go and buy alcohol? Same with article four. |
| Date | 21:29:04, March 18, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | Seeing how the War on Drugs has been a complete failure and we have discussed this material with a personal advisor, we will vote no on this. |
| Date | 22:49:43, March 18, 2007 CET | From | United Reformation Party | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | We don't support Article 2. That's our main reason for voting 'no' on this bill. |
| Date | 23:50:25, March 18, 2007 CET | From | United Democrats of Jakania | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | Ok then, I understand why you vote no on article two, but can you tell me why you are "unsure" about Articles one and two. Your telling me that you would prefer it if anyone could go and sell alcohol, and that anyone, including little kids, could go out and buy alcohol and tobacco |
| Date | 00:14:15, March 19, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Republican Party | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | The U.D.J. brings up a very good point. We would NEVER under any condition wish to make it legal for minors to purchase alcohol or tobacco. Both substances provide tremendous harms to the body and mind. Allowing minors to purchase it not only harms the health of this nation, but also causes increased crime rates, especially in inner city areas. |
| Date | 00:29:38, March 19, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | I am unsure about Articles 1 and 4, not 1 and 2. In the real world, there are very few modern countries that alcohol is flat out illegal to minors. In Europe, it is not uncommon for a minor to drink wine or some alcholic beverage for dinner. It is usually watered down or lessened by the consulting parent or guardian, but it is legal. This example is true in regards to most European or Middle Eastern nations that allow minors to have alcohol for cultural and or religious reasons. It really is not that crucial to us for either form of legislation to pass, we teeter on both sides of the issue throughout our party ranks. However, 2 outweighs this which is why we vote no. In regards to Article 4 which is the tobacco products, we said we were "unsure" because we were just that. We were teetering off and on on which side to support and couldn't find a common consensus. If you look up the word "unsure" in the dictionary it means uncertain and not ready to make a decision about something. And, we made up our mind that we agree with Article 4 but the other articles outweigh it. Though we did support Article 3 whole-heartedly. |
| Date | 00:40:49, March 19, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Republican Party | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | Yes, that is true. Minors can drink alcoholic beverages in some countries, but they cannot purchase it. This bill bans the PURCHASE of alcohol by minors and does not regulate their consumption of it. |
| Date | 21:19:22, March 19, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Democratic Party | To | Debating the Citizens Health Act |
| Message | Actually, in many European Nations they are allowed to purchase alcoholic beverages and the European Union has lessened restrictions significantly. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 21 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 372 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 87 |
| Random fact: It is not allowed to call more than 5 elections in 5 game years in a nation. The default sanction for a player persisting in the early election tactic will be a seat reset. |
| Random quote: "God creates men, but they choose each other." - Niccolo Machiavelli |