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Bill: Mandatory Labour Abolition Act 2084
Details
Submitted by[?]: RSDP - Democratic Front
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2085
Description[?]:
| An Act to abolish mandatory labour for prisoners as it's a blatant violations of human rights and as it is in fact an illegal additional punishment for able-bodied prisoners because said punishment is not imposed by a Court, nor is it a punishment established by law as able-bodied prisoners are ex facto subjected to mandatory labour, hence it is a violation of the principle of nulla poena sine lege and a violation of the most fundamental principles of justice. Mandatory labour is a travesty of justice! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:34:40, July 24, 2005 CET | From | New Party | To | Debating the Mandatory Labour Abolition Act 2084 |
| Message | Very strong for. |
| Date | 17:16:31, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Liberal Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Mandatory Labour Abolition Act 2084 |
| Message | This is well thought out legislation. |
| Date | 17:31:09, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Grand Republican Party | To | Debating the Mandatory Labour Abolition Act 2084 |
| Message | Agreed. We shal support this legislation |
| Date | 01:08:18, July 25, 2005 CET | From | Conservative Party | To | Debating the Mandatory Labour Abolition Act 2084 |
| Message | What? You're completely misusing the legal term, as there is clearly a law BECAUSE WE MADE ONE. Sheesh. Besides, prisoners give up many rights when they commit crimes. This is one of them. They have no right to have any say as to what they do in prison (besides health reasons, etc). They hurt society, we extract payment from them in labor. |
| Date | 10:20:42, July 25, 2005 CET | From |  RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Mandatory Labour Abolition Act 2084 |
| Message | I'm not misusing legal terms, nulla poena sine lege says that the punishment a Court should pronounce when it deems someone guilty of a specific crime is the crime that is established by law as the penalty for that specific crime. Mandatory labour is not established as the penalty for any crime as only able-bodied prisoners have to do it, and because ALL able-bodied prisoners have to do it from murderers to common thieves. Prisoners do not give up their rights when they commit crimes. They are still humans, as such they are still entitled to basic human rights. |
| Date | 12:09:19, July 25, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Mandatory Labour Abolition Act 2084 |
| Message | If someone steals an apple because his entire family is poor and he is hungry, does that make him less human? |
| Date | 13:22:36, July 25, 2005 CET | From | Humanist Socialist Party | To | Debating the Mandatory Labour Abolition Act 2084 |
| Message | Of course not, but in what way does working in the prison infringe on human rights? Much as it pains us to say it, we're almost in agreement with the CP here. We (Parliament) passed the law mandating that working in the prison be made an inherent condition of all sentences that involve incarceration. There's still a distinction between murderers and thieves in that murderers get longer sentences. If the labour is applied in the right way, as we requested assurance of when the original law was passed (i.e. not just breaking rocks all day), then it can even have a salutory effect on rehabilitation (teaches prisoners a trade, so that they don't slide back into the world of crime when they get out). |
| Date | 18:29:45, July 25, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Mandatory Labour Abolition Act 2084 |
| Message | The fact remains they are FORCED to work. Teaching prisoners a profession would be part of regular rehabilitation programmes provided for under other legislation. |
| Date | 20:26:04, July 25, 2005 CET | From | Humanist Socialist Party | To | Debating the Mandatory Labour Abolition Act 2084 |
| Message | Ehm... they're also forced to be incarcerated... receiving punishment entails some loss of rights, by definition, or it couldn't happen. |
| Date | 21:33:40, July 25, 2005 CET | From | RSDP - Democratic Front | To | Debating the Mandatory Labour Abolition Act 2084 |
| Message | That's different, imprisonment is still a humane punishment. Mandatory labour is an inhuman, degrading, cruel and barbaric punishment. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 232 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 185 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 140 |
| Random fact: Once approved, players should copy Cultural Protocols into a bill in the debate section of their nation page, under the title of "OOC: Cultural Protocols". This bill should include links to the passed Cultural Protocol bill and the Moderation approval. |
| Random quote: "John Burroughs has stated that experimental study of animals in captivity is absolutely useless. Their character, their habits, their appetites undergo a complete transformation when torn from their soil in field and forest. With human nature caged in a narrow space, whipped daily into submission, how can we speak of its potentialities?" - Emma Goldman |