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Bill: Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Party of Moderates
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2384
Description[?]:
The Party of Moderates has some slight problems with how education is currently regulated. First of all, we feel it is necesary to change the government's position towards teaching to support education that will create more practical success. We feel this will be good for the country. Also, we have noticed that while children are considered adults a 18, they cannot get out of school until 20. Being an adult means that you are able to make your own decisions. So, forcing adults to stay in school an additional two years doesn't seem logical. We must either decrease the age for when adults may leave school or increase the age where kids are considered to be adults. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 20
Current: 18
Proposed: 18
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change National Curriculum
Old value:: invalid choice
Current: There is a National Curriculum which all government schools are obliged to follow; non-government schools are partially exempt.
Proposed: invalid choice
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 10:43:47, March 21, 2007 CET | From | S.C.A.F.R. | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | no. |
Date | 16:58:27, March 21, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Have you misread article two or do you try to bluff us? |
Date | 16:59:33, March 21, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Considering, we wish to express our disbelief at the low and dirty trick the PM tried to pull. If this is not a blunder on their part, which we cannot understand, we demand an apology! |
Date | 21:39:34, March 21, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Hm, it seemed to us that article 2 would increase the value of the education provided by our schools. After all, standardized testing is just a bunch of paper and a test of how well someone is able to memorize some facts. However, when you grade schools based on how well their students succeed in the real world, that is when education truly flourishes and does its job. We feel this will improve our workforce and our children's ability to learn. After all, part of this is that we're proposing more hands on experiences being made. Hands on experiences are less boring to students. Happy students listen more. Listening students learn more. Learning and education are the foundation of this economy. As to the SD's outrage, we would like to mention that this isn't an attempt to undermine the education system. In fact, it's quite the opposite, and we will not give an apology unless our logic is proven wrong. |
Date | 22:23:15, March 21, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Proposal[?] to change Tax percentage of the profit made by corporations. Old value:: 20 Current: 20 Proposed: 18 --------------------------------- This is a COPY/PASTE of the proposed article ONE!!!! It states that the TAX LEVEL will change from 20 to 18! NOT AGE OF FINISHING SCHOOL! We can only conclude that this is indeed a low and dirty trick. We lost all respect we had of the PM. Be assured that we were enjoying the debates and critical discussion. But no party should resort to these measures. Apology is the least you could do. Question is if it would be enough. |
Date | 22:44:16, March 21, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Oh, this is pretty embarrassing. Sorry, that was a accident, truly. We apologize for that serious blunder. We'll change things immediately. It was an honest mistake. For goodness sake, we inform you every time we make a change to a resolution. Why would we start making dirty tricks now? Besides, if we honestly wanted to change the corporate tax, we would have tried much lower than that. |
Date | 22:47:12, March 21, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Alright, we're sure we got it right, now. It was an honest mistake. Since both the tax on corporations and the age of which children have to be educated are the same and since they are both relatively close to the upper parts of the area of legislation, we got them mixed up for a second. We thank the SD for pointing out this blunder, and we apologize for the blunder. |
Date | 22:49:42, March 21, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | The SD feels that it is only fair of the PM to apologise publicly. Indeed we still cannot believe the PM that it was a honest mistake, but we wish to believe so. If the SD would be in a similar situation it would offer resignations from the cabinet. May this never happen again. |
Date | 22:53:16, March 21, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | It was truly a simple mistake. The numbers for both are the same for goodness sake. At any rate, we should get the matter behind us and go back on topic. Would you support the bill? |
Date | 12:10:37, March 22, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | We will not support this measure out of two reasons - the longer the education is obligatory, the more people are in the educational process. It has nothing to do with adulthood, you can drive a car before you are an adult, you can be prosecuted before you are an adult, so why not still be in school. We do not see that big of a connection. We prefere that each individual be assesed as an individual - through his efforts during the educational process. Every individual is better in one field and better at some other. We are against rigorous examinations. As for the work experience, we are certain that the potential employer will be more than capable to find the best candidate for the job without an examination. How exactly does the PM wish to test individuals in the working field? Will everyone try all jobs and then see who can do the most? |
Date | 22:34:53, March 22, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Well, the PM doesn't see article 1 as being terribly important. It is simply from the belief that legal adults should be able to make their own decisions about their education. As for article 2, we do see as a good way to improve the education system. The goal is to make the education system more practical to the needs of individuals when going into the world and looking for a job. The education system would automatically change its goals from getting just enough knowledge into a kid's brain to have them fill in 70% of the bubbles on tests correctly to making children more experienced, better, more knowledgeble workers. As for how the system would work, it's fairly simple. K-5: This would be a time for general education little different from the current system. 6-8: This would also be general education with some specialized education programs being made for those sure of what they want to do. Also, career exploration and choice programs would have increased emphasis. 9-12: This would have a significantly increased amount of specialized education for the specific career group a student wishes to go into. This system would be backed up by some general education. |
Date | 10:39:31, March 23, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Did the members of the PM know what they wish to become at the age of 12? We will be proposing an extensive systematic reform suggestion in a short while... OOC: work calls, sorry |
Date | 21:45:17, March 23, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | We're expecting them to know by age 14. At the very least, something like this would encourage our children to be calculating and think about the future. |
Date | 18:14:50, March 24, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | We could not present our views yet due to other activities, mainly on the international field - the current crisis in our not that distant neighbour. May we propose that this bill be frozen for a short while so that we can focus on that enough and immediately after the tensions have decreased we come back to this. |
Date | 18:21:38, March 24, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Obviously, the international crisis gains priority, but we can't forgot our domestic improvements and problems either. |
Date | 19:31:07, March 24, 2007 CET | From | Social Democrats | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Just for a couple of weeks, this also gives us enough time to reconsider. |
Date | 19:46:13, March 24, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Very well. Although, we would like this put up for a vote before 2382. |
Date | 07:14:48, March 30, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | We wish for other parties to express their opinion on this matter. |
Date | 17:44:55, April 02, 2007 CET | From | Party of Moderates | To | Debating the Industrial Improvement through Education Reform Act |
Message | Is anyone going to give another opinion on this matter? |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 311 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 247 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 92 |
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