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Bill: International Responsibility
Details
Submitted by[?]: National People's Gang
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2086
Description[?]:
| As the number of abstentions was higher than either the ayes or the nays on the "Stop Legalized Theft Act" and the lives of tens of thousands of people are at stake it is appropriate to reconsider foreign aid. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government never offers international aid.
Current: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Proposed: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:58:08, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | Opposed. The state of affairs before the act referred to was of moderate aid, not high. Additionally if parties abstain, this implies that they are not concerned with the issue. ((The game was not down, which is the reason that other bills have been re-presented quickly in the past)) |
| Date | 22:13:01, July 24, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | The "Tens of thousands of lives" you speak of are now being supported through voluntarily funded aid. Some of this is even is channeled to its recipients through the government. The only result of this bill is to add back in compulsorily obtained funds. |
| Date | 22:13:40, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | If the people of Lodamun truly support the idea of international aid, they are already giving it. |
| Date | 22:43:05, July 24, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | endorsed. |
| Date | 23:51:50, July 24, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | Supported. Alternately, we will also support moderate levels of aid. |
| Date | 01:34:36, July 25, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | will anyone answer the ASP's post or our own? |
| Date | 15:56:47, July 25, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | @ TiC. No they will not answer our posts as they can not answer our posts. |
| Date | 18:51:37, July 25, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | ((@ASP: The game was not down, but the www.particracy.net url was pointed to the old 8080 port, not the 8085 port, so only people who visited the forum and read the post that explained the change would know that the game was up.)) |
| Date | 18:59:34, July 25, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | I have never used any link other than particracy.net Also I have not read the topic in the forum you refer to. |
| Date | 19:28:53, July 25, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | Green Advantage believes in international aid and has seen no reason to change this position. What other answer do you need? |
| Date | 21:32:20, July 25, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | ((www.particracy.net was redirected to the static ip as soon as the problem was known. Until such time, no one could get on (unless they happened to have the static ip stored somewhere) As some of us managed to get on and vote, it was obviously possible to do so. If others did not, then that is their problem.)) |
| Date | 21:36:00, July 25, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the International Responsibility |
| Message | @ Green Advantage or whatever you are called now. My objection was to a bill that had been passed being counter proposed and put straight to vote with no discussion. The state before the last bill is not the one that this proposes, there are lots of reasons not to forcibly steal money from our citizens to give to corrupt dictators of other countries, and the whole way this has been done is unethical and irresponsible. Now would you care to answer, 0r are you going to sit thwere smuuggly saying "I don't care about the people of Lodamun, but then I am not from here, so why should I?" |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 199 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 137 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 101 |
| Random fact: Particracy does not allow real-life brand names (eg. Coca Cola, McDonalds, Microsoft). However, in the case of military equipment brand names it is permitted to use simple number-letter combinations (eg. T-90 and F-22) borrowed from real life, and also simple generic names, like those of animals (eg. Leopard and Jaguar). |
| Random quote: "Thousands of Zardic soldiers were sacrificed so that the Zardic government could gain control of a few buildings and Theodoro could pretend to be Augustus the Great. This is the kind of jingoistic ideology Zardugal would bring to the Security Council. They will throw countless lives away in pursuit of former glory." - Prince Akhaias, former Coburan royal |