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Bill: CA Morality Platform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2379
Description[?]:
To establish ourselves as the traditionalists in the right-wing cabinet, a clarification of our morals. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards alcoholic beverages.
Old value:: The sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages is outlawed.
Current: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, and can only be available to adults.
Proposed: Alcoholic beverages may be purchased only from licensed sales outlets, and can only be available to adults.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to both low-income families and large families.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Current: Individuals are not permitted to own firearms under any circumstances.
Proposed: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government regulation of the viewing of movies.
Old value:: The viewing of movies is not regulated by the government.
Current: The viewing of movies is not regulated by the government.
Proposed: The government sets a range of standards (to be determined) and these apply to cinemas and private homes.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The education system.
Old value:: Education is entirely public and free; private schools are banned.
Current: There is a free public education system alongside private schools.
Proposed: There is a free public education system alongside private schools.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Sale of tobacco products.
Old value:: The sale of tobacco products is prohibited.
Current: The sale of tobacco products is prohibited.
Proposed: Only adults may purchase tobacco.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women serve alongside men.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women can only serve in non-battle positions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 20:52:08, March 24, 2007 CET | From | Popular Socialist Front | To | Debating the CA Morality Platform |
Message | I agree with 1, 4 and 6 only. |
Date | 23:35:48, March 24, 2007 CET | From | Imperialist Party | To | Debating the CA Morality Platform |
Message | I am afraid I disagree with 2, 6 - and possibly 5. Firstly, I do think it is in the interest of the state to encourage child-birth, but further, that welfare systems based simply on the income of recipients misses the fact that different people have different needs. Large families have higher costs, but not higher incomes and so can be 'poor' despite having a higher income than a single person. It is in the interest of the state to ensure that those children get the resources necessary for them to grow up into productive citizens. Secondly, with 6, there are public bads associated with tobacco - it is not just a matter of individual choice, because that choice impacts others through 1. second hand smoke and 2. health costs associated with lung cancer. As much as individuals may assert that they choose to be smokers, it is well known that smoking is physically addictive. Is it a choice or a pathology? So the individual good is questionable, and the public good suggests restriction. If we can stop MOST people from smoking, it will become socially less acceptable to smoke and the problem will largely take care of itself. Thirdly, the problem with 5 is that I am not sure whether those private schools will teach good civic values. Further, it may reduce societal integration by separating out students of one religion, or social class from the rest. When rich students and poor students go to the same school they can work together to make sure it is a good school. When you give the rich a separate system, however, you lose a lot of the un-quantified benefits of, for instance, parents with the ability to afford the time needed to serve on the PTA, and so on. Because the poor have little political voice it is hard for them to advocate if they have unequal institutions with the rich. |
Date | 23:44:09, March 24, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Alliance | To | Debating the CA Morality Platform |
Message | Smoking is a difficult issue within the CA itself, and one that we may well be changing our stance on. However, as this is a platform there is no intention of getting it passed, only to inform the people on Telamon what we stand for. |
Date | 03:18:00, March 25, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the CA Morality Platform |
Message | We absolutely oppose Article 5. Telamon's recent policy history has been centered entirely around the success of our public health and education institutions, and our committment to equal care and opportunity. That is enough to poison a bill for us. The rest is generally too liberal however. |
Date | 16:03:40, March 25, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Alliance | To | Debating the CA Morality Platform |
Message | Liberal? Please. We are traditionalist libertarians. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes |
Total Seats: 211 | |||
no |
Total Seats: 209 | |||
abstain | Total Seats: 181 |
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