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Bill: Bloated Government Reduction of 2383 Act I
Details
Submitted by[?]: Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2383
Description[?]:
| Bloated Government Reduction of 2383 Act I -- A measure to, again, help downsize the pork-barrel spending and needless citizen dependency creation in the Democratic Republic of Aloria. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning granting citizenship.
Old value:: Citizenship is granted to all nationals.
Current: Citizenship is granted to all nationals.
Proposed: Citizenship is gained by passing a qualifying exam.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:03:53, April 02, 2007 CET | From | Federal Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Bloated Government Reduction of 2383 Act I |
| Message | We will ask it once, as this aplies to almostall the 'bloated' bills. How does the name, the pre-ample, and the actual law get together? What on earth do they have to do with each other? And for this billl, why take away the individuals right to be a citizen of this country??? |
| Date | 15:57:10, April 02, 2007 CET | From |  Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) | To | Debating the Bloated Government Reduction of 2383 Act I |
| Message | The MLP is not suggesting taking away individual rights just making sure an individual can make an acceptable edition to our country should they CHOOSE. We, for one, don't want drug addicts, deadbeats, criminals, terrorists, fundamentalists and the lot coming here. It takes an exam to obtain a driver's license, why not something as important as lifelong citizenship? Whatsmore, it will reduce bloat because our national tax system will not have to pay for every illiterate rogue who comes here looking for a "dream" and ends-up a burden on the system. Of course, those handouts are what get the FSDP votes so it doesn't surprise me you have a problem understanding this piece of legislation. |
| Date | 16:35:30, April 02, 2007 CET | From | Socialanarchist Party | To | Debating the Bloated Government Reduction of 2383 Act I |
| Message | You want that these people do not come to Aloria. Actually something we would not generally be opposed to. But why don't you want to grant citizenship to those that were born here? If they ended up less than perfect that is our fault and we have to take them. |
| Date | 17:50:27, April 02, 2007 CET | From | Federal Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Bloated Government Reduction of 2383 Act I |
| Message | Agreed. Tis law is about people born here, and has nothing to do with immigrants, who are coverd by other laws. |
| Date | 23:20:31, April 02, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) | To | Debating the Bloated Government Reduction of 2383 Act I |
| Message | Born here is one thing. Immigration another yes. As is people coming to this country via illegal means and using their children born here as easy-access. Let us define nationals in our nation's terms and move on from there. Are nationals, by our definition, immigrants who become citizens or individuals born here, or both? Explain how we handle this. |
| Date | 00:24:41, April 03, 2007 CET | From | Militant Libertarian Front | To | Debating the Bloated Government Reduction of 2383 Act I |
| Message | Rediculous. This country does not belong to anyone. It is merely an area under the control of a particular administration. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 208 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 392 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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