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Bill: Ratification of the Macon Common Market
Details
Submitted by[?]: Imperialist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2389
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the Macon Common Market. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the Macon Common Market.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:46:48, April 12, 2007 CET | From | Imperialist Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Macon Common Market |
| Message | I now open debate on Telamonian membership in the Macon common market. We will have a fair amount of time to debate this piece of legislation, since the election is too soon for us to vote on it until after the election. This will give voters an issue upon which to base their electoral decision, at the very least. I believe that the future of Telamon involves standing side-by-side with our neighbours. Cooperation helps us build political capital and goodwill that can be used to further our position and interests within the continental congress. Enlarging trade with our allies not only makes us wealthier, but makes them wealthier too. Because we are allies, trade makes us all stronger and better able to exert influence in the broader world. Is trade a good thing? Well, surely we must ask whether it makes sense for our manufacturers, or those in Davostan or Hutori, to have to pay a tax just for bringing goods across the border. If it so happens that Ferene is good at producing auto parts, but the cheapest place to assemble is in Hutori, consumers end up paying the costs of the inefficiency of producing everything at home. Will this affect the workers? Trade makes society as a whole richer, and makes consumers better off, however, workers in the less efficient industries may experience some problems in the short-run (though they will, at the same time, benefit from lower prices in stores). Given our continent however, and the relatively free labour mobility within members of the union that exists now (and that I strive to improve), even the usual costs of trade are wholly minimized. Now we have already passed the necessary legislation to put Telamon in line with the treaty. So even if you don't agree with its provisions, they are in law already. So for all these reasons, I urge the other parties of Telamon - of all political stripes - to pass this valuable legislation. |
| Date | 18:57:03, April 12, 2007 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Ratification of the Macon Common Market |
| Message | We wholeheartedly support this free trade treaty and believe that it can only benefit the Telamonian economy, as well as generally the Macon one. We have always been in favour of universal free trade. However, we do acknowledge the concerns of the CPA that this treaty although pertaining to the union, was not discussed in Congress. As such, should an acceptable alternative be negotiated soon, via official channels in Congress then we would be happy to support that. Failing that then we will have no hesitation in supporting this |
| Date | 19:10:15, April 12, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the Ratification of the Macon Common Market |
| Message | All we ask is that the UCA reserve their support until an alternative can be discussed, and hopefully proposed, in Congress. I'm glad to see they're willing to be patient. |
| Date | 22:56:04, April 12, 2007 CET | From | Marxist Peoples Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the Macon Common Market |
| Message | You claim this will improve the lives of the workers, yet you hide behind the bourgeois line of a trickle down economy. This has been tried with the IMF and WTO, who both wanted to eliminate poverty, but what happened? Quite the opposite! The bourgeoisie simply used the loans to intensify their already maticulous exploitation of the masses. The effect of this treaty will be massive losses in jobs. After all, why employ a worker from Telamon if you can simply squeeze extra labor out of a worker from Hutori? The continent will become a sprawling empire of the international bourgeoisie. "Look how much our economy has improved" one will say, but this will only serve to make the workers tremble with indignation. A billion more dollars into the economy from the trade pact and two billion from the workers to the bourgeoisie! |
| Date | 07:38:54, April 13, 2007 CET | From | National Fasco-Communist Order | To | Debating the Ratification of the Macon Common Market |
| Message | We could never support this. |
| Date | 17:41:41, April 13, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the Ratification of the Macon Common Market |
| Message | This doesn't stand a chance in hell. You'd need 401 yes votes for this, and even if the Marxist Peoples, Popular Socialists, Communists, Telamon Peoples and Cooperative Populists abstained you couldn't get this to pass. |
| Date | 10:25:23, April 14, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Alliance | To | Debating the Ratification of the Macon Common Market |
| Message | We support this, and raise our collective eyebrows at the CPA's... emotional debating style. |
| Date | 18:05:58, April 14, 2007 CET | From | Catholic Workers Union | To | Debating the Ratification of the Macon Common Market |
| Message | Hehe, we just like to get upset sometimes. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 269 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 240 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 92 |
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