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Bill: Abortions In Emergencies
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Union Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2390
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Proposed: Abortions are only allowed in medical emergencies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:12:41, April 15, 2007 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Abortions In Emergencies |
| Message | We present to the House what we said last time on this matter: Imagine it's a teenage girl who has been raped, but can't prove that it is rape and therefore is not classed as a medical emergency. As the baby grows inside her, her body will not be able to cope with it. Her hips will begin to fracture. She could possibly become incontenent due to the strain. And then, the time when she goes into labour. There is a huge possibility that her vagina could become ripped and torn, and her uterus walls could cause internal bleeding. Because of the pain, she may faint during labour, putting herself and the unborn child in terrible danger. Now think of a woman with no money. Her husband has left the country when he found out she was pregnant. There is absolutely no way that she can afford to keep this child. Because of the lack of money, she is living in a woman's hostel. The problem is, the other people in the woman's hostel are druggies, or thieves. Because of her dire conditions, she has no choice but to get rid of this baby. But you won't let her. So it is born, in terrible circumstances. In effect you have ruined this woman's life, and you have even managed to ruin the life of the unborn child. We bet you're really pleased with yourselves. Of course, even if your bill passed, these women would have a way out of these terrible circumstances. They could go to the black market. They would go to some person who claims he knows what he's doing. But because it's illegal, nobody must know. So the equipment used is dirty. There is no aftercare, as if the authorities found out, she would surely be jailed. So she has an unsafe abortion, with the possibility that there could be major internal bleeding and several diseases due to the unsteriled equipment used. The woman dies. Who is responsible? The people that voted in favour of this bill. It would be you that killed these women, and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves for even putting it to the House. And this time, we'd like an answer, not an insult about it being "horrid" or whatever. |
| Date | 12:38:59, April 15, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the Abortions In Emergencies |
| Message | And we will answer with the other side of the arguement. Haven't you heard of C section births? If the women's vagina was becoming ripped or her uterus walls started bleeding then the doctor could give a C section. Simple answer. Again RiR not thinking about all the possibilities first. Before was a bill attempting to legalise it throughout the whole course of the pregnancy, that's crueler than this, surely a conservative party like yourself must know that. |
| Date | 12:46:13, April 15, 2007 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Abortions In Emergencies |
| Message | Both are equally cruel and you will see we did not vote in favour of it being available throughout the entire pregnancy. So you would force a young girl to last the entire course of a pregnancy? You would make her go through such torturous pain. And you have not looked at the other issues that we have presented before you. That of a penniless, abandoned woman, and the fact that abortions will become available, unsafely on the black market. Clearly, because you know that these are distinct possibilities should your bill pass. |
| Date | 12:57:15, April 15, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the Abortions In Emergencies |
| Message | I'm a christian, for me abortions are not morally right. I'm off to church in the afternoon, I might talk to the vicar and see what he thinks. |
| Date | 17:48:55, April 15, 2007 CET | From | Christian Democratic Alternative | To | Debating the Abortions In Emergencies |
| Message | My opinion on abortion is not very much influenced by religion. It is one's duty to protect life. Protecting life is a testimony of common sense. |
| Date | 10:32:55, April 16, 2007 CET | From | God's and the King's Fighters | To | Debating the Abortions In Emergencies |
| Message | I fully agree with the CDA and the CUP. Abortion is just murder. |
| Date | 11:32:47, April 16, 2007 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Abortions In Emergencies |
| Message | The problem is that none of you have answered the situations that I have posed initially. The fact is, this will make abortions available unsafely on the black market, and could simply ruin lives. |
| Date | 11:54:49, April 16, 2007 CET | From | Conservative Union Party | To | Debating the Abortions In Emergencies |
| Message | You forget that there's a child inside the woman. What about the child? You are only thinking of the women and not the child. Shame on you. |
| Date | 12:17:51, April 16, 2007 CET | From | Conservative-Libertarian Party (UM) | To | Debating the Abortions In Emergencies |
| Message | You really are impossible. We are thinking of both. Do you really think that the child would lead a happy and decent life if they are brought up in situation B (penniless, abandoned mother)? And do you really think that an abortion on the black market is going to do any good for the 'child'. Because women will turn to underground and illegal methods to have their foetuses aborted. And it would probably be a lot more painful for the foetus than a proper abortion. Shame on you for being so damned ignorant. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 94 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 120 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 36 |
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