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Bill: Moral Rebuilding Act 3
Details
Submitted by[?]: Industrialist Party of Aloria
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2391
Description[?]:
| To rebuild laws pertaining to moral decency in Aloria. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The distribution, purchasing and possession of material depicting pornographic acts.
Old value:: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for everyone.
Current: Pornography depicting consenting adults is legal for adults.
Proposed: All forms of pornography are illegal.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:26:39, April 18, 2007 CET | From |  Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | Homophobic legislation! Unnecessary! "Morals" enforced by government! An infraction on individual liberties! |
| Date | 03:27:42, April 18, 2007 CET | From | Industrialist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | I hate how you say it's a disease to be against homosexuality. I think it's a crime to be openly gay and commit gay acts. |
| Date | 15:17:59, April 18, 2007 CET | From | Militant Libertarian Front | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | my legs...my choice to be photographed opening them |
| Date | 15:43:35, April 18, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | It's not a disease. A disease can be caught. You can't catch being intolerant against GLBT persons. You also can't catch being gay. Being gay is not a matter of public policy or public health so please stop making laws of inequality and discrimination against something people are that hurts NO ONE. Besides, what do we do if being homosexual is illegal? Throw men in jail with men, or ladies with ladies? Like Lenny Bruce once said, that would really make for a good law!! Ridiculous! Gays don't impose being gay on you, don't impose your moral doctrines on them. |
| Date | 01:47:37, April 19, 2007 CET | From | Industrialist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | Listen, it isn't immoral to be gay it's immoral to be open about it and practice gay acts. I model my life (and want to model my world) around simple decency derived from my Bible and I'm here to do just that. |
| Date | 03:13:39, April 19, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | Have you ever read the Bible the whole way through? Old and New Testament? Have you read the punishments for disrespecting one's elders or stealing? Those punishments would be considered barbaric, and cruel and unusual by today's standards. They at best are parables not facts to be taken literally. Believers read into the Bible what supports their political opinions NOT the other way around. They selectively pick what supports (or what they imply) their thoughts and leave the rest out. The Bible might help you live your life but that's yours. Stop trying to "help" everyone else live their's (according to your standards). You are not your "brother's keeper." |
| Date | 03:27:35, April 19, 2007 CET | From | Industrialist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | Yes I am. You are supposed to help everyone be righteous and punish those who aren't. That means enacting Christian laws. I would love it if the Bible supported adultery, nudity, stealing, and etc because it would make life easier and moral enjoyable, but those things are sins. You characterize us like bigots but we only do what we believe is best for all to the best of our ability. |
| Date | 11:38:42, April 19, 2007 CET | From | Militant Libertarian Front | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | The Bible is bullshit which only shit-for-brains irrationalists consider relevant. Religion is poison. |
| Date | 16:16:42, April 19, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | Are you serious? Christian laws? Oh, yeah, that would work real nice. Have you ever looked into theocratic nations and how they operate? They are nowhere near as free and democratic as you'd like to believe they can be. Try Iran for starters. In religious-run nations, elections don't happen. Women aren't free to exercise their own decisions. The government controls everything seen, heard, spoken and worshipped. That's a "fine" nation, aye, all built on religion...but you'd like that as long as it was your specific religion barking orders to everyone else. How unfair. Look at history and see how when religion sticks its nose into government, everyone gets messed-up. You do what you believe and everyone else's rights get taken away. People end up in jail. People die. All for your nice little beliefs. If that's you best, then your best isn't good enough! |
| Date | 02:53:57, April 20, 2007 CET | From | Industrialist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | MLP: What? Women not voting? Are you mad? No free speech? No elections? Nothing in the Bible says that can't happen. Anyhow, one of the principles that I do believe is that you don't force people to be Christian because if they don't truly believe because God doesn't want them if they don't. I just want to enforce common decency. And MLF: At least MLP is being mildly polite! At least I have respect for MLP! You on the other hand: Not so much. Trash talk me all yo want buddy, but hear this: If religion is poison how come Jesus advocates peace and love and turning the other cheek? I feel sorry for you to say the least. I hope someday you understand, and if not, I hope you live a good life while you still can. |
| Date | 15:40:12, April 20, 2007 CET | From | Moderate Libertarian Party (NoCoalition) | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | America is secular as is most of Europe. These countries allow for democratic elections and freedoms unknown in countries where religion is required and religious laws rule the day. Religion is obedience not liberty. Without secular governance, women would not be able to vote. There would be no free speech or dissent. Those pose threats to the control-hungering religious leaders and the governments they head-up. When religion is in the driver's seat, dictatorial governance flourishes. My church is the Church of Democracy. My Bibles are the Constitution and the Magna Carta. These don't care if you're Christian or atheist, black or white, gay or straight. They care that you don't impose the personal interpetations of man-made 2,000 year old Judeo-Christian texts to make restrictive laws because believers tend to truly fear the world and don't trust human beings when it comes to matters of personal choice. |
| Date | 04:19:40, April 21, 2007 CET | From | Industrialist Party of Aloria | To | Debating the Moral Rebuilding Act 3 |
| Message | Man made? Yes i suppose they were, but they were guided by God. I believe in the constitution as much as any person could ever! I just want simple morality for us. I know religion is obedience too. I obey God and he will bless me and sometimes if I don't obey him he will. I don't want to force religion. I just want to enforce simple morality laws. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 79 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 408 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 113 |
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