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Bill: Comprehensive Higher Education
Details
Submitted by[?]: Tuesday Is Coming
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2087
Description[?]:
| Removing the government from education. Allow government to do its job, protect the citizens. Allow universities and colleges to do theirs. Voluntarily funded schools, allow the people to pay for their own schooling, with no taxes forcing them to do so, or making it harder for them either. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Higher education institutions.
Old value:: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Current: The government maintains a system of universities, vocational schools, and colleges nationwide.
Proposed: The government does not maintain any forms of higher education.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The regulation of higher education.
Old value:: The government allows public and private higher education institutions to coexist with self-regulation for those that are private.
Current: The government allows private higher education but regulates it to meet nationally set standards.
Proposed: The government does not fund any public higher education institutions, permitting only private higher education institutions to exist.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Higher education tuition policy.
Old value:: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Current: The government fully subsidizes tuition.
Proposed: The government subsidizes tuition only for students from families classified as low-income or poor.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:00:38, July 27, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Comprehensive Higher Education |
| Message | ((The tuition subsidy is modeled on my state's HOPE scholarship program, available for a certain number of classes to anyone who can maintain a B average)) |
| Date | 23:00:39, July 27, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Comprehensive Higher Education |
| Message | We will support, but we would have preferred to see a different option on the tuition fee policy. Means testing has always seemed better to us that partial subsidies for all. |
| Date | 23:01:07, July 27, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Comprehensive Higher Education |
| Message | ((http://www.gsfc.org/HOPE/Index.cfm)) |
| Date | 23:07:26, July 27, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Comprehensive Higher Education |
| Message | I went with the partial subsidies for all option because it doesnt discriminate between citizens based on wealth. However a partial subsidy would go a lot further to enable a poorer student to attend school, compared to a relatively more wealthy one. |
| Date | 02:16:06, July 28, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Comprehensive Higher Education |
| Message | The counter argument is that as it is never a full grant it does not allow the truly poor to attend whilst at the same time using public money to provide beer money for those that don't need it Discrimination in financial help on the basis of financial standing seems fair to us. . |
| Date | 03:22:36, July 28, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Comprehensive Higher Education |
| Message | Even with a flat tax, the rich pay more. (10% of 100,000 is higher than 10% of 20,000). Therefore, they are already discriminated (against) with regard to who pays for these subsidies. It does not seem entirely fair to us to discriminate against them again with regard to who recieves the subsidies. It was our hope that an easily obtainable merit-based full tuition(but not other fees, etc.) scholarship would be made available, similar to the voucher system we proposed for lower education. We shall try at all times to make the government impartial to different citizens, (hence why we support a flat tax, with a full exemption for everything below the living expenses/(poverty) line.) Fully progressive, yet fully fair to all. Treat everyone the same, and differences will naturally happen(in this case the $ amount taxed). ((www.fairtax.org)) |
| Date | 03:23:49, July 28, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Comprehensive Higher Education |
| Message | (proposal temporarily changed to the prevailing opinion here...) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 186 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 103 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 161 |
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