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Bill: Space Bill II
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Progressive Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2088
Description[?]:
| A bill to save the taxpayers' money by extending Priavte Finance Initiatives to the space program. There is no need to ban private co-operation in the space program, and this bill will once again save money which is needed in education and healthcare. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards space exploration.
Old value:: The government shall fully fund a state-owned space agency which controls all national space-related activity.
Current: Space exploration and use shall be totally unregulated.
Proposed: The government shall operate a space agency that contracts with and oversees private space-exploration companies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:24:44, July 29, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | no, space agency's should be under full control of the government to prevent accidents! if you want to save the 'taxpayers' (we dont have tax) money abolish space exploration! |
| Date | 18:45:35, July 29, 2005 CET | From | People's Progressive Party | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | Why abolish space exploration when we can continue it with private companies? Why will government control make any difference in terms of accidents? |
| Date | 19:30:30, July 29, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | I would think that accidents are just as likey with government run ones and this would save a lot of tax payers money (Of course we have tax) |
| Date | 20:16:41, July 29, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | (we only have corporate tax at the moment) the private companies will most likely not or very lousely work together and that gives a higher risk of accidents. |
| Date | 07:45:20, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | Accidents? No one cares about accidents. We support this because private space exploration is MUCH cheaper than state! |
| Date | 10:27:30, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | that sounded very sick... |
| Date | 11:56:26, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Chinkopodian Economic Democrats | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | Commie - yes, we can either abolish it, or fully privatise it if you're so converned. I like privatisation of space myself - we get all the benefits of space exploration, we're not taxed upon it, and private companies/industries in a competitive dog-eat-dog environment make the industry more efficient than if it's state-owned. Any fool with half a brain knows that, which leads to serious doubts on my behalf about commie's condition. |
| Date | 12:20:10, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | no, you dont need half a brain to understand private company's dont care about the enviroment and the state does... since its for they're benefit to take care of the enviroment, if things go bad with the enviroment they get less votes... |
| Date | 12:20:33, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | more efficient does mean less safety and less control... |
| Date | 12:21:01, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | off course the factory's of Ford were very efficient back then... but where they safe? and good for the workers and enviroment? |
| Date | 13:23:12, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Chinkopodian Economic Democrats | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | Congratulations, You just made a sweeping generalisation with no foundation at all. By the way, George Bush (sorry to put in RL reference here) cares little about the environment, he's had 2 terms in office. Meanwhile, many private companies try their hardest to be environmentally friendly. Congratulations. You just made another sweeping generalisation with even less foundation! Oh, the exception is the rule now is it? And if you really want to use an example to demonstrate a rule, then give an example that's actually modern and up-to-date, not one from 'back then'. Things have changed, but seeing as communism is something stuck in the past, I can see your attachment to days gone by. |
| Date | 19:45:12, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Chinkopodian Economic Democrats | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | No comeback, I notice. Cat got your tongue? |
| Date | 20:01:58, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | <<off course the factory's of Ford were very efficient back then... but where they safe? and good for the workers and enviroment?>> Ford was literally a nazi. |
| Date | 20:03:22, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Progressive Democratic Alliance | To | Debating the Space Bill II |
| Message | How about we have a compromise between the two. One state-run agency but private ventures are also legal. Like SpaceShip One for example. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 376 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 149 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 225 |
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