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Bill: Youth Curfew 2088
Details
Submitted by[?]: Patriot Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2093
Description[?]:
| This bill will allow the local governments to establish curfews for minors. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Curfew policy (curfew time to be determined in the bill description).
Old value:: No curfew policies may be established.
Current: Local governments may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Proposed: Local governments may set curfews, but national government does not.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:26:11, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Youth Curfew 2088 |
| Message | No. Curfews are an infirngement on people's rights and crime isn't a problem. |
| Date | 22:04:27, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Youth Curfew 2088 |
| Message | Support. |
| Date | 23:25:16, July 30, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Youth Curfew 2088 |
| Message | DSP, this is for minors! They don't have rights. |
| Date | 21:12:21, August 01, 2005 CET | From | Social Dynamist Party | To | Debating the Youth Curfew 2088 |
| Message | Please tell me that was a joke, RiP. |
| Date | 22:05:38, August 02, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Youth Curfew 2088 |
| Message | Tell me what rights that minors actually have? Until they hit adult hood... the answer is not many. |
| Date | 22:55:00, August 02, 2005 CET | From | Social Dynamist Party | To | Debating the Youth Curfew 2088 |
| Message | They have rights to life, freedom of speech, freedom of thought and belief*, freedom from torture**, the right to healthcare and education***, In fact the only things they don't have is recognition of competence to decide on some issues. Tell me, what rights don't minors have? * Except where belief is imposed upon them by compulsory prayer, etc. ** Except when the teacher feels like it, according to current legislation. *** Except where much of Tukarali's Right wing is concerned. Ok, so perhaps it wasn't a joke. But still, we would like to know exactly where you stand - what rights do you, the RiP believe should be common to all people? |
| Date | 16:27:36, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Youth Curfew 2088 |
| Message | Ahh but we're still talking minors here. Let them loose on the streets at the dead of night and there'll be trouble. They are not adults yet. The rights you named are the rights I was born with. However, that doesn't mean they can do whatever they want. This bill is designed to keep kids off the streets after a certain hour. Most cities already have curfew laws. That is why I decided to submit this bill saying that the local governments can impose curfews. Notice that the words MAY IMPOSE! Doesn't mean that local governments are obligated too. They can if they want but it isn't mandatory. |
| Date | 16:29:09, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Patriot Party | To | Debating the Youth Curfew 2088 |
| Message | ^^That was supposed to be by me and not my brother. I hate it when it doesn't automatically log you out. |
| Date | 22:56:21, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Social Dynamist Party | To | Debating the Youth Curfew 2088 |
| Message | "Let them loose on the streets at the dead of night and there'll be trouble." "However, that doesn't mean they can do whatever they want." Well, quite. But if they cause trouble, they can be arrested, prosecuted, and convicted. If they cause no trouble, they have the right not to be arrested unfairly. |
| Date | 18:00:40, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Rightist Party | To | Debating the Youth Curfew 2088 |
| Message | But if they aren't on the streets, they can't get into trouble now can they? |
| Date | 19:31:54, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Social Dynamist Party | To | Debating the Youth Curfew 2088 |
| Message | "they can't get into trouble now can they?" They can revert to other sorts of trouble, if they're so determined. And in any case, please don't ignore legitimate questions: what rights do you, the RiP believe should be common to all people? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 184 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 79 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 9 |
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