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Bill: Strikers Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Revolutionary Democratic Socialists
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2403
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Employer's rights in regards to firing striking workers.
Old value:: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Current: Employers cannot fire workers who have gone on strike.
Proposed: Employers cannot fire workers who have gone on strike.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Secondary strike action.
Old value:: Secondary strike action is illegal. Workers and unions can only go on strike for their own pay and conditions.
Current: Only closely related trade unions can walk out on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Proposed: Any trade union can go on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Trade union strike ballots.
Old value:: Trade unions must by law hold a ballot of all members before going on strike, a majority of all members, regardless of if they vote or not must approve the strike action.
Current: Trade unions are not required by law to hold a ballot before striking.
Proposed: Trade unions are not required by law to hold a ballot before striking.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:09:32, May 13, 2007 CET | From |  Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Strikers Bill |
| Message | I think we're all familiar with the Orange IR policy but, really, isn't a change to article 2 a tad retarded? I can't be fired if I want a billion aureus pay rise and strike to get it? What kind of system is that? |
| Date | 02:35:32, May 13, 2007 CET | From | Revolutionary Democratic Socialists | To | Debating the Strikers Bill |
| Message | i think its "retarded" that a striker can be fired if he goes on strike. OBviously your not getting paid if your on strike, so you wont go on strike unless absolutly nessisary, so the "billion aureus" situation is not gunna happen. Also its "retarded" if you can be fired if you go on strike for "unreasonable" reasons. To most emplyers, pay rises or health and safty issues would be "unreasonable" reasons to strike. |
| Date | 08:22:27, May 13, 2007 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Strikers Bill |
| Message | This: "OBviously your not getting paid if your on strike" and this: "pay rises or health and safty issues would be "unreasonable" reasons to strike" imply that people only go on strike for not getting paid but also go on strike to get a pay rise. First form a position, RDS, then try to defend it. "Also its "retarded" if you can be fired if you go on strike for "unreasonable" reasons." Why? Why shouldn't I get fired for go on strike until I get a billion aureus raise? The employer can never hope to accommodate that and the worker cannot be gotten rid of. Who benefits from that scenario? Only the idiot worker (which should not be construed to mean all workers are idiots: just the one in the example). Who suffers? The employer and everyone who relies on his or her products. "To most emplyers, pay rises or health and safty issues would be "unreasonable" reasons to strike." Sometimes they are. Sometimes they aren't. For example, I can go on strike until I get a full kevlar worksuit when I'm a pillow roadtester or, to use my personal favourite, the billion aureus payrise. Hence why the courts should decide whether a strike action is reasonable and thus allow employers to take action or be forced to negotiate with the union. Furthermore, you've ignored the fact that employers are required by other laws to pay a wage a worker can live on and are required to meet national health and safety standards in the workplace. Let's not even get into article 3 where a few select communists can easily endanger the livelihood of thousands of people by trying to exercise their power to bring down the collective "man". |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 23 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 68 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 109 |
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