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Bill: Effective industrial anti-pollution measures.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Adam Smith Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2092
Description[?]:
| The current attempts to regulate the pollution emittted by industry is failing badly in some regions: This is due to the public not being sufficiently aware of the government requirements and these requirements being too lax. If we are going to clean up our act we need it to be done voluntarily. SImply slapping a company with a fine of LOD 100,000 for dumping untreated water in our river system will not stop them from doing it if it saves them LOD101,000 or generates LOD 101,000 in increased revenue. Now we can set fines at a level to overcome the first problem, but the second is a matter of market share etc. The only true control on a company is held by its clients. Those that buy from it. If people stop buying products or services from a company it goes out of business. Thus the effective way of reducing pollution is to publicise tight guidelines and to require all companies to publish their waste output. This is far more effective than trying to regulate the system ourselves. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government regulation of pollution in industry.
Old value:: The government enforces moderate pollution restrictions.
Current: The government enforces highly restrictive industrial pollution standards.
Proposed: The government provides pollution prevention guidelines, but does not enforce them.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:05:28, August 02, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Effective industrial anti-pollution measures. |
| Message | mark |
| Date | 20:57:50, August 02, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Effective industrial anti-pollution measures. |
| Message | OOC: those values were all very high yesterday. Therefore: The rapid deterioration of the environment is clearly the result of the butchering of environmental regulation by the outgoing government. Both increased education, and proper enforcement, are needed. |
| Date | 00:16:41, August 03, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Effective industrial anti-pollution measures. |
| Message | We can always keep the levels the same AND force companies to publish figures. |
| Date | 17:04:04, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Effective industrial anti-pollution measures. |
| Message | OOC: the original values were Kregon 701 Andalay 686 Rapula 782 Norstavan 759 Golavia 666 All pollution values were low, with the highest being Rapula at 157. |
| Date | 20:21:54, August 03, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Effective industrial anti-pollution measures. |
| Message | wouter has said multiple times that the current values are random and will soon be reseeded... |
| Date | 02:20:42, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Effective industrial anti-pollution measures. |
| Message | yup. So the numbers are currently irrelevant. Take 'em out of the bill, and let us never speak of this again. |
| Date | 07:11:32, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Effective industrial anti-pollution measures. |
| Message | "yup. So the numbers are currently irrelevant. Take 'em out of the bill, and let us never speak of this again." Agreed, at least until such time as the numbers become relevant... |
| Date | 19:38:40, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Effective industrial anti-pollution measures. |
| Message | Ok, the numbers are out of the bill. The argument presented in the bill still stands though. @CNT To do that you have to publish the pollution prevention guidelines. If they are published, then there is no need to enforce them. They will be self enforcing if the public care, and if the public do not care we should not be spending their money on this. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 171 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 262 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 17 |
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