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Bill: Let the Children sing!
Details
Submitted by[?]: People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2413
Description[?]:
| First they strip the children of prayer, and now of song? What is Beluzia coming to??? The Peoples Populist Party demands that the nations youth struggle against their oppressive betrayer, his black heart is barren of Beluzian culture! |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: People are required to dress according to religious codes
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Any religion may set up a school, but they are strictly regulated.
Current: Any religion may set up a school, with no regulations.
Proposed: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religions shall be regulated by the law, but shall be borne by the religious communities themselves.
Proposed: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:33:51, June 04, 2007 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | No, takes away freedoms. |
| Date | 13:34:33, June 04, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | see the updated bill description, please! |
| Date | 16:49:32, June 04, 2007 CET | From | Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | Very stirring... we still, however, disagree. |
| Date | 12:58:40, June 05, 2007 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | 'There is an official state religion and membership is MANDATORY'. . . Erm, no. :P |
| Date | 14:04:06, June 05, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | erm? Erm? ERM?!? |
| Date | 17:52:41, June 06, 2007 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | This is an appauling attack on liberties. Even if taken individually I would reject the proposals one after the other. |
| Date | 00:44:32, June 07, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | Cowards!~~ |
| Date | 16:49:14, June 07, 2007 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | I cant see this being popular with the people. seems to go against your partys fundamental purpose. Why would they want to be given less freedom?? This is not a facist country, or am i mistaken? |
| Date | 22:42:55, June 07, 2007 CET | From | United Workers Union | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | The state and the clergy are separated and it is for the best this way, we can't force people to accept our religion, it's not nice |
| Date | 23:22:38, June 07, 2007 CET | From | Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | We could force them, but I'm a lazy, lazy man... |
| Date | 11:43:54, June 08, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | Laird Zog is far from lazy! Which of the People's Popular Positions does this bill violate? |
| Date | 17:40:38, June 08, 2007 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | I meant that your partys name "Peoples Populist" implies that you stand for the people.... obviously that is not your parties primary concern... :) |
| Date | 18:29:39, June 08, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | The People kneel before Laird Zog!!! |
| Date | 18:33:08, June 08, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | Zog IS Beluzia!!! |
| Date | 23:23:55, June 08, 2007 CET | From | Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | Please, can someone end Groundhog day? These debates are eternal now... |
| Date | 23:49:05, June 08, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | Are you convinced yet? |
| Date | 21:09:58, June 11, 2007 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | no |
| Date | 00:51:01, June 12, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | Then the debates shall go on! The prayers of the People have frozen the sun in the sky, providing their Laird ample time to persuade opposition parties to repentance! |
| Date | 20:30:17, June 12, 2007 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | good luck with that! |
| Date | 20:52:15, June 12, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | luck? Luck? LUCK?!? What need for luck, when we have Zog! |
| Date | 21:55:42, June 12, 2007 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | Zog is head of state not god lol.... he might have the blasphemous name "jesus" but he isnt christ! you will need more than luck or H.M. King Zog.... how are you going to convince all us lot to change our political ideology instantly? |
| Date | 23:21:36, June 12, 2007 CET | From | Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | Blasphemous? There's a lot of blashemous men in Mexico and the rest of Latin America then. Jesus is a common first name... |
| Date | 09:55:40, June 13, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | Indeed! And who is more catholic than a mexican? |
| Date | 23:31:40, June 13, 2007 CET | From | Beluzian Workers Party | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | An Italian, perhaps? |
| Date | 15:44:32, June 15, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Let the Children sing! |
| Message | @#$%&! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 243 | ||||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 507 | ||||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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