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Bill: Freedom for the Workers Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democractic Socialist Party of Lodamun
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2091
Description[?]:
| This bill is designed to grant all workers the right to strike as well as give more freedom for those considered critical to society. Service industries of most types have to provide a minimal service. Including and limited to: Air traffic controllers Police Transit workers Doctors in public hospitals Paramedics Firepeople Public utilities workers Pharmacists please feel free to suggest more. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The workers' right to strike.
Old value:: All workers, except certain categories of workers regarded as critical to society, have the right to strike.
Current: All workers have the right to strike but certain categories of workers regarded as critical to society have to ensure a minimal service.
Proposed: All workers have the right to strike but certain categories of workers regarded as critical to society have to ensure a minimal service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:07:15, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | which sectors? |
| Date | 04:21:41, August 03, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | I'm assuming certain categories will include power generation and water works workers, doctors, teachers, perhaps transit workers and the like. |
| Date | 04:36:48, August 03, 2005 CET | From |  Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | Those sectors will have to be defined in the bill description... |
| Date | 16:51:59, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | Other sectors that have to be considered Military Customs Politicians Food retailers Teachers Child Minders (nursery staff) Refuse colectors Postal service Banks Pharmacies It might be easier to simply specify that service industries of all types have to provide a minimal service. |
| Date | 16:58:38, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | people who work in power plants and water works = public utilities workers, maybe? the military is not a union, so no need to include it. no reason to keep teachers on the list. Our national law does not recognize schools as an essential service. service industries that do not affect human life -- garbage collectors, postal workers, customs, banks -- are not essential services. Adding all those to the list would restrict the right to strike, not expand it. |
| Date | 17:58:13, August 03, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | Just Utilities workers should be alright. And maybe firepeople should be changed to firefighters. |
| Date | 18:05:46, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | In the modern world the financial institutions are essemntial to life, as are customs officers etc. The military is not permitted a union? That is not what our laws say, so where did you get that from? We do recognise schools as an essential OPTION, so teachers shoulsd be includes. ((I am old enough to remember the dustman strike in London in the mid 1970s)) Refuse collection does affect human life. If you think it does not, try living a few weeks without putting the refuse out. |
| Date | 20:10:17, August 03, 2005 CET | From | Democractic Socialist Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | I do believe teachers have the full right to strike as they are not essential to Lodamuns infrastructure directly. The military should also have the right to strike seeing as how they are given the worst working conditions. Postal service isn't essential because most things can be done electronically. Also, refuse collectors aren't essential and have bad working conditions too. They will be allowed to strike. Food retailers are unskilled and can be replaced easily so it isnt neccesary to block them from a strike. |
| Date | 23:15:52, August 03, 2005 CET | From | National People's Gang | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | Just change the proposal to "All workers have the right to strike." It's the responsibility of managers to maintain services. |
| Date | 01:00:46, August 04, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | Actually, you should put this on hold for a while. if we can get the Democratic Options for Workers Act through, we can change this to all workers can strike. |
| Date | 03:06:50, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | GA. Go read the proposal. All of these groups will ba allowed to strike. Just that there will be a requirement that a minimum service is maintained. This does not mean the full service, it means just enough to prevent health and safety risks. |
| Date | 03:08:25, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | ((Sorry GA (zach/CCF) my last comment should have been directed to DSP, apologies for the mistaken identity.)) |
| Date | 03:09:41, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | Does the DSP really approve of the use of strike breakers? "Food retailers are unskilled and can be replaced easily so it isnt neccesary to block them from a strike." !?! |
| Date | 07:09:50, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | We were under the assumption that the purpose of a strike was that "workers are unskilled and can be replaced too easily by the corporate exploitation." Apparently only skilled/scarce workers, who already recieve higher wages and more power in their companies, should be included in the wonderful socialist "reforms". |
| Date | 20:32:19, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Democractic Socialist Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | I merely meant they arent an essential industry because the can be replaced quickly. They still have the right to strike. If anything, I'm giving unskilled workers more rights. I'm not sure exactly what your point is, TiC. and isn't it the libertarians who would object to strikes anyways? you know, since you assume companies will go out of business if they exploit their workers. |
| Date | 23:17:54, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | "I merely meant they arent an essential industry because the can be replaced quickly. They still have the right to strike. If anything, I'm giving unskilled workers more rights. I'm not sure exactly what your point is, TiC." I merely misinterpreted your post to say the exact opposite of what you were saying...hence my confusion. sorry "isn't it the libertarians who would object to strikes anyways? you know, since you assume companies will go out of business if they exploit their workers." See my "right of employers" bill. I was objecting to a percieved inconsistency that was actually mistaken. |
| Date | 02:50:30, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | There was no agreement reached as to what are critical workers and critical services before this was put to vote. Thus we can not support the motion. |
| Date | 06:08:46, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Democractic Socialist Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | We spent enough time debating unrelated items. |
| Date | 06:18:47, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Tuesday Is Coming | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | but apparently not enough on the related ones... |
| Date | 06:55:42, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Adam Smith Party | To | Debating the Freedom for the Workers Act |
| Message | Time, in this case was not the issue. It was content. We suggested some additions, you refuted, we countered your refutations, then you simply ignored these points. They were and would still be negotiable. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 262 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 171 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 17 |
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