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Bill: IC International Agenda
Details
Submitted by[?]: Gaduri Resistencia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2413
Description[?]:
Why should we prevent people from living in this country? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Travel by nationals to foreign nations
Old value:: The nation issues passports to nationals after a cursory security check.
Current: The nation issues passports to nationals after a cursory security check.
Proposed: The nation issues passports on demand for any reason to its nationals
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning immigration.
Old value:: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Current: Quotas are based on individual applicant's qualifications.
Proposed: Everyone is allowed to reside permanently in this nation.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change International trade (this is a default in the absense of a specific free trade agreement or specific trade embargo)
Old value:: The nation imposes reciprocal tariffs on imports, with no tariffs imposed on states which impose no tariffs on our exports.
Current: The nation allows for imports, but imposes "ethical" tariffs on nations with lower environmental and labour rights standards.
Proposed: The nation does not impose any tariffs or quotas on imports.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Travel by foreigners to the nation.
Old value:: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Current: The nation imposes minimal border controls on visitors, with cursory security checks, to confirm visitor identities.
Proposed: The nation imposes no border controls on visitors.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 01:27:12, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Capitalists for Prosperity | To | Debating the IC International Agenda |
Message | This is an insane bill. Border control is necesary for the sake of security. Wanting to destroy it is naive and pathetic. Quotas on immigration are necesary for national prosperity. Unregulated immigration leads to too many people coming here and stealing away jobs from people already here. This hurts the economy and soon, you won't have anybody wanting to come here because it has become a hellhole. Furthermore, it doesn't allow for the people here to assimilate. Instead of assimilating, the immigrants will retain the culture exactly as before and live in communities exactly in the shape as before their arrival. Instead of a melting pot, we end up with multi-culturism. The people of a country are united through some kind of link. When you have multi-culturism, the link between the different cultures is destroyed. This often creates strife, war, and xenophobia, destroying the country. There is a historical precedent for this. Do you honestly want this? As for the policy towards tariffs, it is necesary to discourage tariffs upon our own products. While we do like free trade, the current policy is good to make sure the free trade is mutual. |
Date | 14:33:29, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the IC International Agenda |
Message | First and foremost, as we are communist, we can easily create more jobs for those who need them. As for your slightly xenophobic rant about foreigners destroying culture, the government runs assimilation programs to ensure people integrate into society. On the other hand, we believe that people are quite welcome to retain their previous cultural behaviors/traditions/religions should they so wish. Border control is not necessary for security for the simple reason that we have tight enough internal security not to need to worry about it. As for tariffs, the reciprocal approach is just pathetic eye for an eye behavior, and benefits nobody. |
Date | 17:55:34, June 14, 2007 CET | From | (GCCP) H.P. Sauce Committee | To | Debating the IC International Agenda |
Message | We do need border control so change that and i will vote for |
Date | 20:02:55, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Capitalists for Prosperity | To | Debating the IC International Agenda |
Message | We already argued against the idiocy behind the government magically creating jobs. As for your mention of us being xenophobia. That is an utter lie. We enjoy a melting pot within our country. We enjoy immigration. Immigration in moderation helps much more than it hurts. However, as with all things, when it isn't in moderation, it ends up hurting. As for the cultural problems, no amount of integration programs can integrate the flood of immigrants that come when you just open the gates. When that occurs, multi-culturism is created and the link between people of a country is destroyed. This causes the problems outlined above. Just look at Europe. They opened the gates to every person who wanted to come, and the immigrants never integrated. Now, there are problems with extremists as well as a separate, shariah law being created. As for the argument about border security, why allow dangerous elements to be let in in the first place when you can stop them at the border? What about problems with diseases? Do you really want to make it easier for diseases to spread from country to country? Not to mention, there is the need to prevent unregulated, illegal immigration for the sake of the people already here and legal immigrants. Finally, as for the "eye for an eye" ideology applied to the tariffs, so what if it is an "eye for an eye" ideology. It benefits everybody because it discourages any eyes from being taken in the first place. |
Date | 20:27:20, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Gaduri Resistencia | To | Debating the IC International Agenda |
Message | Have you ever been to Europe? As a person living there, I can assure you that the only discrimination I ever see goes from those established here to those who aren't. There are far more people here in Britain spouting white-only rubbish than there are calling for jihad, I can assure you. Most immigrants just want a job, and Gaduridos can provide. The key to ending the problems associated with immigration isn't quotas, it's dealing with the prejudice of established inhabitants. Don't delude yourself there. As for border security and tariffs: I will admit to only having put those in to boost visibilities: the chances of this bill passing were always fairly slim. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 88 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 263 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 84 |
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