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Bill: Civil Rights Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: The Rabble
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2414
Description[?]:
| For too long our people have been subjected to authoritarian policing and an intrusive state |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The citizens' right to assemble in public.
Old value:: The police may disperse a group without giving any reason.
Current: The police may disperse a group if they believe it poses a potential risk to public safety.
Proposed: There are no restrictions on the right of citizens to assemble in groups.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Right to privacy.
Old value:: The government has the right to monitor information of individuals without letting them know.
Current: Individuals have a right to privacy, but the courts can force individuals to give information on certain matters if needed. (also known as Habeas Data).
Proposed: Individuals have a right to privacy, to keep records and information for themselves.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:24:07, June 12, 2007 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Civil Rights Bill |
| Message | We support this bill - under the understanding that the intelligence services would not be bound by the provision of the second law. |
| Date | 16:34:38, June 12, 2007 CET | From | National Conservative Party | To | Debating the Civil Rights Bill |
| Message | Are you crazy!? The only alternitave is anarchy! We cannot undermine the police like this! |
| Date | 17:37:03, June 12, 2007 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Civil Rights Bill |
| Message | We have been swayed by the argument. We believe that this legislation goes a step too far. On the first provision: the police should retain the pwoer to dispurse potentially dangerous and violent groups. On the second provision: the justice should retain the power to get information from people through the courts. |
| Date | 17:51:48, June 12, 2007 CET | From | The Rabble | To | Debating the Civil Rights Bill |
| Message | how very 'libertarian' of you |
| Date | 18:00:40, June 12, 2007 CET | From | Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Civil Rights Bill |
| Message | It is actually! John Stuart Mill would agree with me on the first point because he restricted liberty according to the Harm Principle., and it is exactly because of the angry mob that he was willing to suppress SOME freedom of speech. In any case. I'm not going to doctrinally vote on ideological grounds. You would have been advised to introduce your measures in two seperate bills and to argue the case for such a radical departure from existing policy. If you had been more moderate, we could have liberalised this area. |
| Date | 18:44:15, June 12, 2007 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Civil Rights Bill |
| Message | People like mill are what tazer batons were invented for! |
| Date | 20:14:27, June 12, 2007 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Civil Rights Bill |
| Message | Well I presume that the Liberal Party would rather be liberal than libertarian... :s lol.... :) I do disagree.... I prefer the provisions of my bill.... If people are to meet in public, they must be dispersed if they pose a threat! |
| Date | 19:12:23, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Civil Rights Bill |
| Message | I do agree with proposal 1 |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 339 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 411 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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