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Bill: State Religion Act 2414
Details
Submitted by[?]: Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2414
Description[?]:
| 1.1 The official state religion of Greater Hulstria shall be the Lutheran Church of Greater Hulstria. All Kaisers of Greater Hulstria must belong to this religion or forfeit their throne. 1.2 There shall be two other established "national churches" of Greater Hulstria in addition to the state religion; the Episcopal Church of Greater Hulstria and the Terran Catholic Church. 1.3 The three national churches of Greater Hulstria shall enjoy perpetual freedom from taxation. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:59:02, June 14, 2007 CET | From |  Ehre und Treue | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | If the freedom shall be perpetual this bill must pass with a 2/3 majority, becoming constitutional law, isn't it? |
| Date | 23:03:14, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | Actually, we have several elements of our "constitutional law" that have never been passed with a 2/3s majority. For example, the Judiciary Act defines and establishes our entire judicial system. (OOC: This is sort've like the Westminster system in this regard) |
| Date | 23:04:18, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Ehre und Treue | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | OOC: Can't some of the other parties give themselves different colours? |
| Date | 23:09:03, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Kaiserliche Hulsterreichische Partei | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | OOC: Yes its quite bothersome. IC: *grumbles from the IHP Diet members* We thought we passed this already. |
| Date | 23:13:45, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Ehre und Treue | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | But then it can be changed by simple majorities? |
| Date | 23:15:38, June 14, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hulstria | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | Grr... almost had this shot down. |
| Date | 03:46:02, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | We must object. This will led only to religious turmoil in our streets. |
| Date | 05:33:42, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | Yes, because the huge Mormon population of Hulstria will be up in arms, of course. |
| Date | 06:14:10, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Socialist Party of Greater Hulstria | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is growing by the tens of thousands every month as more and more see the true word of God. We are not to be ignored. We will not stop and there is nothing you can do about it. |
| Date | 06:25:12, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | OOC: godmode |
| Date | 20:34:31, June 15, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Party of Hulstria | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | OOC: Yeah, srsly learn about Hulstria before u RP. We might as well have buddhists rising up against this its just as likely as Mormon's |
| Date | 02:59:31, June 16, 2007 CET | From | Crown Loyalists | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | Quite honestly I see no reason for an established state church. It would only cause problems if the successor to the throne suddenly decided to convert to Mormonism or something ridiculous like that, which in turn leads to the possibility of civil war. The benefits simply do not outweigh the risks. |
| Date | 03:12:02, June 16, 2007 CET | From | Wiedervereinigten Nationalisten | To | Debating the State Religion Act 2414 |
| Message | Conversion to Mormonism is soon to be outlawed by the Un-Hulstrian Activities Act. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 338 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 381 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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