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Bill: Private, not public smoking...
Details
Submitted by[?]: The Unified Lodamun Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2415
Description[?]:
| Smoking invades the rights of those who do not want to inhale second hand smoke, and thus smoking in public places aside from private clubs and bars, needs to be banned. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards smoking.
Old value:: Smoking regulations are to be determined by local governments.
Current: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in places of employment, with the exception of places that primarily serve liquor.
Proposed: Smoking is legal outdoors and in private homes and clubs, but illegal indoors in places of employment, with the exception of places that primarily serve liquor.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:07:35, June 16, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the Private, not public smoking... |
| Message | This bill was previously debated as the Clean Air Act, but has been split into two seperate Bills. |
| Date | 23:37:25, June 16, 2007 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Private, not public smoking... |
| Message | If smoking is so bad, why allow it in bars? |
| Date | 00:43:25, June 17, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the Private, not public smoking... |
| Message | I have nothing wrong with smoking, I myself smoke cigars periodically. However, the people have spoken, and they are upset about the increase in lung cancer patients entering our hospitals. Keeping smoking in places where people can choose to be in its' pressence or not, will help alleiviate that problem. Also, I've spoken with many owners of establishmetns that serve alchahol, and they would prefer to continue having legalised smoking because many drinkers also smoke, and few drinkers would have a problem being in the pressence of a smoke filled environment. Finally, if the owner of a bar desires to make his business a non-smoking facility, he is more than welcome to do so. Unified Lodamun's serve the people, and this is what the people want. They absolutley do not want strong armed tactics by two of its' major parties thwarting their own desires. The elections will show you the err of your ways. |
| Date | 01:51:48, June 17, 2007 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Private, not public smoking... |
| Message | there's no consistency in that argument. If smoking is bad it's equally bad everywhere. If bars should be able to allow smoking because alot of people want to smoke there, why shouldn't a doughnut shop allow smoking if most of their customers want to smoke? |
| Date | 02:17:11, June 17, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the Private, not public smoking... |
| Message | If you can get all the poeple who go into doughnut shops to vote on whether they want to breath in 2nd hand smoke, and I get all the people in bars to vote on the same thing, what do you suppose the outcome of such an vote be? And be honest, not political. |
| Date | 08:20:01, June 17, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the Private, not public smoking... |
| Message | As always, the LDP supports the strong position of local governments. We feel that this keeps us from voting for this bill. |
| Date | 08:35:14, June 17, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the Private, not public smoking... |
| Message | Wow, you are all completely unified in your desire to breath in second hand smoke. That is interesting. I found a way to unify our country, just as I planned all along. |
| Date | 08:47:01, June 17, 2007 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Private, not public smoking... |
| Message | unified through your inconsistent logic |
| Date | 16:12:07, June 17, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the Private, not public smoking... |
| Message | Its not inconsistent in any way. I'm for what the people want. Besides this bill would have failed miserably if we had attempted to ban smoking altogether just as much as it did in taking a partial step in that direction. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 599 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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