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Bill: Responsible Extradition Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: New Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2416
Description[?]:
| The United Kingdom of Lodamun should be proud of it's stand against cruel and unusual punishment. We should further protect all Terra citizens by ensuring that we do not unintentionally condone or cause these punishments to be inflicted. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The terms of extradition.
Old value:: The law does not limit the power of the government to pursue extradition treaties.
Current: The law bars the government from extraditing anyone who is a citizen of the state.
Proposed: Extradition to nations that practice cruel or inhumane treatment of suspects or in punishment is not allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:34:09, June 18, 2007 CET | From | New Democratic Party | To | Debating the Responsible Extradition Act |
| Message | I would like to point out that there were additional articles I would have added to this bill had the Anti-Multicultural Treaty not been in place. I suggest another bill to overthrow the treaty and ask for an explanation from the Nationalist Party as to why this deplorable treaty (that only our nation is held to) hasn't been eliminated. |
| Date | 19:43:00, June 18, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the Responsible Extradition Act |
| Message | We think putting them down seperately is better anyway, as it will allow us to more fully debate each issue. The new treaty withdrawl proposal that the Free Lodamese proposed will pass. As for the Nationalists, you must understand that they are stridently pro-segregation. The treaty was a brilliant way to keep Lodamun from passing a number of desegregation and immigration laws all at the same time. Racial segregation and pro-monarchy legislation are their bread and butter, am I right NP? As for this proposal, we feel that it is a wise and moral idea, and we are proud to stand behind the NDP in support of it. |
| Date | 20:09:59, June 18, 2007 CET | From | Radical Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Responsible Extradition Act |
| Message | As the LDP said immigration and Monarchy are our core values in the NP, also the NP are leaders of the Anti-Multicultualism league therefore we have a desire to have our values enforced around the world. As for this proposal we can not support, if a person comits a crime such as rape, murder etc... then they should answer to the courts of the country they broke the law in. If a person goes to a nation they agree that they will respect their laws, if they break them laws then they should face the punishment. This proposal will also lead to criminals of the world fleeing to Lodamun to escape justice, we feel that this is wrong and will lead Lodamun to very dangerous international situations. When in Rome do as the Romans do. |
| Date | 21:15:13, June 18, 2007 CET | From | New Democratic Party | To | Debating the Responsible Extradition Act |
| Message | Perhaps the NP misunderstands either extradition or the intent of this bill. We aren't suggesting that Lodamun harbors all of Terra's miscreants wishing to escape punishment or act as an asylum state for any dangerous criminal. Our law already states that "no refugees are allowed to enter the country," so that is clearly not a problem. This law simply states that any citizen currently residing in Lodamun will not be turned over to another state with a record of torture. We believe that freedom from torture is a basic human right, and no one deserves to be treated cruelly or inhumanely. |
| Date | 22:09:19, June 18, 2007 CET | From | Radical Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Responsible Extradition Act |
| Message | However that will be a problem when that law is changed as it will be when the liberals get the chance to start the destruction of this nation. Soon enough we will have immigrations coming into Lodamun and Refugees, therefor your argument is VOID! |
| Date | 22:38:33, June 18, 2007 CET | From | Free Lodamun | To | Debating the Responsible Extradition Act |
| Message | I'm not liberal, I'm pretty moderate. we prefer the term, "enlightened conservative." jerk. We're with the NP on this all the way. We WILL be accepting refugees in some facet and soon, as such, we really don't want them bringing their problems with them. If someone commits a crime someplace else and they want them back, fine. have it at. Keep in mind that extraditions still have hearings, we won't be hanging viable political refugees out to dry by keeping the status quo. But if there is a murderer or actual criminal from some barbaric nation in our midst and we deem that they are not eligible for asylum, then FL doesn't want our hands tied and doesn't want to generate an international incident just because that nation has practices that we don't accept. |
| Date | 23:57:43, June 18, 2007 CET | From | Free Lodamun | To | Debating the Responsible Extradition Act |
| Message | OOC: sorry, dumb american view of the word "liberalism" FL is liberal in the traditional sense. |
| Date | 22:14:12, June 19, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the Responsible Extradition Act |
| Message | We agree with the NP. Who are we to tell othe rcountries how they should be acting. If we were a part of a worldwide UN of sorts, we could head up a bill that would deal with this, but as is, its not our place to do so. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 128 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 471 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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