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Bill: Progressive Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Secular Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 2416
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning who can proceed with adoption; in case adoption is legal.
Old value:: Only heterosexual couples may adopt children.
Current: Everyone may adopt children.
Proposed: Only heterosexual couples and singles may adopt children.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on sexual relations.
Old value:: Heterosexual relationships only are legal for consenting adults.
Current: Sexual relations of all types are legal for consenting adults.
Proposed: Homosexual relations are illegal, but are not prosecuted.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:22:50, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Christian People's Party (IA) | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | we have the a problem with the whole "singles may adopt children" part of this bill |
| Date | 05:40:06, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Secular Party | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | Singles can raise children just as well as couples. Besides, if you truly question the singles' ability to raise children, then we can enact a policy where there is an intense screening process if it doesn't already exist. |
| Date | 05:53:57, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Christian People's Party (IA) | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | Yes singles in the case of an adobtion is fra worse off than a married couple even a divorced couple and then there is the whole issue of pedophiles |
| Date | 05:56:04, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Secular Party | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | I'm pretty sure intense regulation of the adoption process will allow our officials to sniff out pediophiles. |
| Date | 05:59:10, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Christian People's Party (IA) | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | There is a screening process but nothing is 100% and a single adopting children is generally somthing we worry about |
| Date | 06:08:37, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Secular Party | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | You can get pretty close to 100% with intense regulation, and that statement you mentioned applies to couple, too. The two members of that couple can both be pediophiles, or the the couple prostitute their adopted child. |
| Date | 06:17:58, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Christian People's Party (IA) | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | you just raised a lot of new good questions |
| Date | 06:22:57, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Secular Party | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | Of course, adoption almost always results in enrichment of the lives of the parents and the children, especially when adoption is intensely regulated. We shouldn't restrict this merely because of a very slim minority. That applies for both singles and couples. |
| Date | 06:33:43, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Christian People's Party (IA) | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | How about The state raises all children in state institutions? then there is no problems |
| Date | 06:39:44, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Secular Party | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | Then you hurt the lives of the children and the parents over a small minority of people that can simply be arrested and then jailed or killed. Besides, state officials can be corrupt or pediophiles, too. |
| Date | 06:49:25, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Christian People's Party (IA) | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | it seem to us to almost be the lesser evil |
| Date | 12:20:14, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Luthori Christian Women's Association | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | We believe the best context in which to raise a child is with a married man and woman who are committed to each other and their child. However, we recognise that single people can do a good job of raising children too, and we certainly believe that, on the whole, the state does not make a great job of being a parent. Belinda Braithwaite (Leader of the LCWA) |
| Date | 15:18:00, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | Sodomites must be hung on sight. These peoposals are treasonus. |
| Date | 15:18:34, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Redneck Party | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | OOC: wow is my spelling terrible at times.. |
| Date | 17:08:12, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Secular Party | To | Debating the Progressive Bill |
| Message | That's because you're a gay redneck. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 26 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 74 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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