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Bill: Welfare Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Luthori Christian Women's Association
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2416
Description[?]:
| Our government should begin to make provision for the poorest of our citizens. Some people become poor for no reason of their own, and it's a vicious downward spiral. Belinda Braithwaite (Leader of the LCWA) |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Proposed: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government. However, the provision of this is not to exceed a certian period of time.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:30:53, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Christian People's Party (IA) | To | Debating the Welfare Act |
| Message | communism |
| Date | 17:17:15, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Secular Party | To | Debating the Welfare Act |
| Message | Not really. It's just basic unemployment insurance for those that can't afford it otherwise. If it were communism, the minimum income would really be a minimum income, and it would be permanent. |
| Date | 22:32:22, June 19, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Welfare Act |
| Message | Let's get this right: you want the government to pay people to stay at home? Using money it has taken from hard working taxpayers? |
| Date | 05:25:27, June 20, 2007 CET | From | Teleurstelling Party | To | Debating the Welfare Act |
| Message | The Secular Party would contend it is unemployment Insurance...however as we all know Unemployment insurance is not paid via tax but via premiums paid by employers. Also the common system of unemployment insurance requires that one work to earn time and levels of pay. It is not a blanket to catch all it is limited, Unemployment Insurance helps a displaced worker while he is seeking more work...it is not permanent. There is nothing in this bill to suggest it requires a work history, and it is vague about how long an individual might make use of this luxury. There is a reason it is called a "Welfare" Act and trying to mislead this body by suggesting this proposal is like a completely different and far more fair system is insulting. The Falls Party reluctantly votes 'No' because of lack of clearity in the wording of the Bill. |
| Date | 09:51:44, June 20, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Welfare Act |
| Message | Our understanding of 'Unemployment insurance' is as part of 'Accident, Sickness and Unemployment (ASU)' cover, an insurance product usually sold with loans, mortgages, credit cards, etc. If His Majesty's subjects wish to take out such insurance that should be up to them, but under no circumstances should the funds of HM Treasury be handed out to people who do nothing for it - any surplus should instead be returned to the taxpayers. |
| Date | 12:04:49, June 20, 2007 CET | From | Luthori Christian Women's Association | To | Debating the Welfare Act |
| Message | I hope the political leaders who are opposing this measure will never have to learn what poverty is really like. Belinda Braithwaite (Leader of the LCWA) |
| Date | 18:21:09, June 20, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Vodka and Pimm's Party | To | Debating the Welfare Act |
| Message | I'm sure we won't. We are all landowners, after all. Regardless, the His Majesties Government is not a charity. We may encourage charities through tax-emption and perhaps free national advertising, but it is an affront to the dignity and purpose of our institution to suggest we are ourselves one. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 26 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 74 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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