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Bill: Our New None Communist Future
Details
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2417
Description[?]:
Without Ideological strings attached This will change the name of the "Trigunian Socialist Soviet Republic" to the "Republic of Trigunia" It will also change the name of the city of Martovia to Kleinsburg (In honour of a former President from the Liberty Party). Also, this bill will change the name of Ulianova to Rammstein. More to be added |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The lyrics of the national anthem.
Old value:: Hymn of the Union of Karissian Soviet Socialist Republics United forever in friendship and labor, Our mighty republics will ever endure. The great Karissian Union will live through the ages. The dream of a people their fortress secure. CHORUS: Long live our Karissian Motherland, built by the people's mighty hand. Long live our People, united and free. Strong in our friendship tried by fire. Long may our flag inspire, Shining in glory for all men to see. Through days dark and stormy where Great Fielding led us Our eyes saw the bright sun of freedom above and Martov our Leader with faith in the People, Inspired us to build up the land that we love. CHORUS: Long live our Karissian Motherland, built by the people's mighty hand. Long live our People, united and free. Strong in our friendship tried by fire. Long may our flag inspire, Shining in glory for all men to see. We fought for the future, destroyed the invader, and brought to our homeland the Laurels of Fame. Our glory will live in the memory of nations and all generations will honour her name. CHORUS: Long live our Karissian Motherland, built by the people's mighty hand. Long live our People, united and free. Strong in our friendship tried by fire. Long may our flag inspire, Shining in glory for all men to see. Hear it at: http://folk.ntnu.no/makarov/temporary_url_20060919zkkfg/anthem-sovietunion-1977-instr-defence_ministry_1977.mp3
Current:
Rodshyan (Russian): My, tryguny – mirnyye lyudi, Serdtsem predannyye rodnoy zemle. Iskrenne druzhim, sily zakalyayem, My v trudolyubivoy, svobodnoy sem'ye. Pripev: Slav'sya, zemli nashey svetloye imya, Slav'sya, narodov bratskiy soyuz! Nasha lyubimaya mat'-Otchizna, Vechno zhivi i tsveti, Tryguniya! Vmeste s brat'yami khrabro vekami My zashchishchali rodnoy porog, V bitvakh za volyu, bitvakh za dolyu Svoye dobyvali znamya pobed! Pripev Druzhba narodov – sila narodov – Nash zavetnyy, solnechnyy put'. Gordo zh vozveysya v yasnyye vysi, Znamya pobednoye – radosti flag! Pripev Luthorian (English): We, Trigunians, are peaceful people, Wholeheartedly devoted to our Motherland. We are faithful friends, growing up Living in a hardworking and independent family. Chorus: Glory to the blessed name of our land, Glory to the brotherly union of peoples! Our dearly beloved Motherland, May you live long and prosper, Trigunia! Together with our brothers, we for centuries Courageously defended our home's threshold. In battles for freedom, and battles for our lot We have won our banners of victory! Chorus Friendship of peoples is the strength of peoples And it is our sacred sunlit path. Proudly we fly in the clear blue skies, The banner of victory, the sunshine's flag! Chorus |
Proposed:
Best of nations! At Thy feet In the bonds of love we meet, Hear our voices, we entreat, We defend our Free Land. Guard Trigunia's single star, From the shafts of strife and war, Make her praises heard afar, We defend Trigunia Men of every creed and race Gather here before Thy face, Asking Thee to bless this place, We defend our Free Land. From dissension, envy, hate, And corruption guard our State, Make our country good and great, We defend Trigunia. Peace, not war, shall be our boast, But, should foes assail our coast, Make us then a mighty host, We defend our Free Land. Lord of battles in thy might, Put our enemies to flight, Let our cause be just and right, We defend Trigunia. Let our love for Thee increase, May Thy blessings never cease, Give us plenty, give us peace, We defend our Free Land. From dishonour and from shame Guard our country's spotless name Crown her with immortal fame, We defend Trigunia. May our mountains ever be Freedom's ramparts on the sea, Make us faithful unto Thee, We defend our Free Land. Guide her in the nations' van, Preaching love and truth to man, Working out Thy Glorious plan, We defend Trigunia. |
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The constitutional right and responsibility to propose a cabinet to the legislature.
Old value:: Only the Head of State can propose a cabinet coalition.
Current: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Proposed: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's capital city.
Old value:: 1039
Current: Rodshyadam (Родшядам)
Proposed: 1040
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Current: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Proposed: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: General Secretary of the Trigunian KCCP
Current: Prezident Respubliki i predsedatel' Gosudarstvennogo soveta (President of the Republic and Chairman of the State Council)
Proposed: Chancellor
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The national motto.
Old value:: Workers of the World, Unite!
Current: Narodov Bratskiy Soyuz (Brotherly Union of Peoples)
Proposed: May our mountains be freedom's ramparts upon the sea
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The official national sport.
Old value:: Dialectics
Current:
Тригунский хоккей; tr. Trigunsky Khokkey (Trigunian Hockey) |
Proposed: Football
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change The length of a legislative and executive term, in months. Should be between 24 and 72.
Old value:: 72
Current: 72
Proposed: 36
Article 9
Proposal[?] to change The total number of seats in the legislative assembly. Should be between 75 and 750.
Old value:: 600
Current: 600
Proposed: 555
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:03:26, June 20, 2007 CET | From | TSDRP | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | The new motto is based on the old national anthem (to be returned). I believe it reflects the struggle which has occured |
Date | 18:45:40, June 20, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Centrist Party | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | The LCP is voting no unless article 1 and 3 are changed. Every party should have the right to propose a cabinet...regarding article 1 the HoS and HoG should be seperated like before. |
Date | 19:53:30, June 20, 2007 CET | From | TSDRP | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | I will change article 1, but I will not change article 2. I think you'll find for most of the past 100 years Trigunia has had a single president, after my party abolished the monarchy in 2308. |
Date | 19:53:57, June 20, 2007 CET | From | TSDRP | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | 3 i mean* |
Date | 21:53:59, June 20, 2007 CET | From | Sotsial-Demokraticheskaya Partiya | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | Yes. but i believe we shall have a semi-president system. |
Date | 22:09:09, June 20, 2007 CET | From | TSDRP | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | What you believe wont make the slightest bit of difference, only the two thirds majority. Basically, no reform is being passed unless it has a President alone. There will be no compromise |
Date | 22:11:06, June 20, 2007 CET | From | TSDRP | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | Btw 555 was our traditional legislature size for many years. My party is restoring those traditions which were defaced in our absence. |
Date | 22:35:38, June 20, 2007 CET | From | TSDRP | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | The good thing about having football as a national sport is it appeases americans and none americans, as they both have their own version of football. Obviously football (the one involving feet) is the version played here though xD |
Date | 00:10:29, June 21, 2007 CET | From | Trigunian Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | Insofar everything looks good to me, I will most certainly vote in favor. |
Date | 04:01:14, June 21, 2007 CET | From | Socialist Workers Party | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | The history of our country is most important with what we have strived through, what has built this country up and our morals that we have kept bearing with ourselves through time. I will most certainly vote no and I urge my other colleagues in the Supreme Soviet to keep to the fatherland and vote no in this most dispicable of acts to change our constitution. |
Date | 09:08:55, June 21, 2007 CET | From | TSDRP | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | What? past 20 years you mean? Our history goes back far longer than that. |
Date | 13:08:19, June 21, 2007 CET | From | TSDRP | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | So Liberal Centrists, you refuse the reform? If this is not passed, I will ensure no other changes are. |
Date | 16:07:58, June 21, 2007 CET | From | Sotsial-Demokraticheskaya Partiya | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | Actually since 2099, Trigunia had two seperate positions of HoG and HoS. |
Date | 16:10:12, June 21, 2007 CET | From | Sotsial-Demokraticheskaya Partiya | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | nvm, It was a one person system. |
Date | 16:12:12, June 21, 2007 CET | From | Sotsial-Demokraticheskaya Partiya | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | We wish for the title of the HoS to be President, since a Chancellor is a another term for a prime minister. |
Date | 19:28:56, June 21, 2007 CET | From | TSDRP | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | Chancellor can be used for either really. Bad example but in star wars (lol) the President is Chancellor Palpatine |
Date | 22:10:18, June 21, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Centrist Party | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | The LCP will vote yes, but not because we have accepted the bill as it is, its because elections will now take place every 3 years which is a great democratic achievements after the semi-dictatorship of the KCCP. The matter regarding the joint-office of HoS and HoG will be left for now, but the LCP remains keen in seperating the 2 offices. |
Date | 22:12:20, June 21, 2007 CET | From | Liberal Centrist Party | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | looks like we still need 9 seats! |
Date | 23:18:44, June 21, 2007 CET | From | TSDRP | To | Debating the Our New None Communist Future |
Message | Got a few months left..... Comon other party's! Thanks for voting yes btw LCP, would have also been a pain proposing all the other stuff again. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||||
yes |
Total Seats: 473 | |||||
no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
abstain | Total Seats: 127 |
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