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Bill: Reform for Moderate Change Act of 2417
Details
Submitted by[?]: Lodamun Distributionist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2418
Description[?]:
| With 9 active parties, all but 1 of which have seats, the LDP feels that there are far too many chances for the PFP to become overwhelmed with new legislation. We propose that the parliament take a second look at the Reform for Moderate Change. The original proposal, with more arguments for the change, is here: http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=120704 Keep in mind that even with these reductions the PFP has the potential to see 45 new pieces of legislation every year (2 days). |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The number of proposals a party can introduce per year (will be handed out as a monthly quota).
Old value:: 10
Current: 20
Proposed: 5
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The maximum proposal quota a party can accumulate.
Old value:: 15
Current: 20
Proposed: 10
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:45:36, June 22, 2007 CET | From | Radical Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Reform for Moderate Change Act of 2417 |
| Message | We can agree to this. However maybe keep or increase article 1. |
| Date | 05:13:04, June 22, 2007 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Reform for Moderate Change Act of 2417 |
| Message | Once again I oppose this bill. It reduces the number of bills that new parties can propose and vote on. This reduces their ability to raise their exposure and gain seats. How can the LDP claim to be defenders of democracy by rewriting the rules for forming a cabinet and then propose this anti-democratic bill? |
| Date | 05:13:24, June 22, 2007 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the Reform for Moderate Change Act of 2417 |
| Message | Once again I oppose this bill. It reduces the number of bills that new parties can propose and vote on. This reduces their ability to raise their exposure and gain seats. How can the LDP claim to be defenders of democracy by rewriting the rules for forming a cabinet and then propose this anti-democratic bill? |
| Date | 14:47:06, June 22, 2007 CET | From | Democrats | To | Debating the Reform for Moderate Change Act of 2417 |
| Message | Although the argument is well thought out (9 parties proposing a total of 45 Bills every year), we feel this would not work, as only a few parties would actually reach their quota yearly, and we see no reason to hold back this more proactive parties in their quest for legislative reform. |
| Date | 00:03:00, June 23, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the Reform for Moderate Change Act of 2417 |
| Message | Its not holding back parties, its enforcing stability. If you can completely change our government every time a new power comes to office within a year, then your country could fall off a cliff and not even know it. You must protect the people in a representative democracy, because they may be duped by their representatives. |
| Date | 00:03:41, June 23, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the Reform for Moderate Change Act of 2417 |
| Message | URP, I'm very surprised you are so agains tthis considering you are the one that just left complete power, and your government is now at risk. |
| Date | 00:10:23, June 23, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the Reform for Moderate Change Act of 2417 |
| Message | Finaly, some of us don't have two hours a day to spend playing this game, and when we have ten to fifteen bills a day to look through and vote on, we have no time left for debating, and making deals. In an ideal world, we will all have to talk to each other about cosponsering bills because we won't be able to sponsor as many as we'd like to on our own. This will also cause the bigger parties to be forced to work with the smaller ones, which is really what the URP's problem is. He dosn't want to deal with the rest of the parties. I want to play politics here, such as I scratch your back, you scratch mine politics, and that will happen if there are limited bills that any party can propose. That way, when the URP sponsors his five allotted bills tomorrow, he'll have to ask one of us to sponsor his next one, which of course means that in return he will have to vote for one of ours. See, politics at there best, that is what this bill is all about. No more strong handed tactics. |
| Date | 03:14:34, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Free Lodamun | To | Debating the Reform for Moderate Change Act of 2417 |
| Message | OOC: Case in point, If i wanted to I could make another 15 proposels today. This is after I did 9 or 10 just a few days ago. I don't want to do that, I don't want anyone to be able or feel obligated to do that for the visibility. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 270 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 167 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 162 |
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