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Bill: New Refugee Advancement
Details
Submitted by[?]: Free Lodamun
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2418
Description[?]:
| Our incoming refugees need a small stipend to get them on thier feet otherwise they will live in ghettos and crime will breed. They need to feel like they are part of their new nation. It will cost us money now to save us money in the long run. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The national refugee policy.
Old value:: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; no aid is given to them.
Current: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.
Proposed: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; they are given integration-aid.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:26:09, June 23, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the New Refugee Advancement |
| Message | Its' at least a step in the right direction. |
| Date | 06:01:44, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the New Refugee Advancement |
| Message | We agree. There is no better way to create a bitter, dangerous class of people than to take displaced people with nothing, give them nothing, allow them nothing and expect them to be grateful. |
| Date | 12:00:53, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Radical Nationalist Party | To | Debating the New Refugee Advancement |
| Message | They shouldnt be here at all, nevermind getting money for free when that money could be spent on improving our health or education, This is a no no no. |
| Date | 12:11:14, June 23, 2007 CET | From | United Republics Party | To | Debating the New Refugee Advancement |
| Message | How will this save us money in the long run? |
| Date | 18:36:28, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Free Lodamun | To | Debating the New Refugee Advancement |
| Message | WIthout the initial aid to get started, refugees from one nation will band together in our cities in ghettos. Even the ones who do not become citizens will have children, these children will start off maybe slightly better than thier parents and be eligible for state assistance. In addition to that, it is in these kinds of areas where radicalism and crime breed. Since we're so selective about who we're letting in, its a small thing to ensure they have the tools to make thier lives comfortable and make them feel accepted by us. It will pay off in the long run. |
| Date | 21:04:47, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Democrats | To | Debating the New Refugee Advancement |
| Message | We see no need to pander to such groups. If it is perceived that they may be open to future radicalism, then we would suggest a policy of repatriation at the soonest possible moment. |
| Date | 21:08:09, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the New Refugee Advancement |
| Message | Well, when you fix their economy, knock the fascist dictators out of power and reverse the effects of famine, we'll send them right back. |
| Date | 21:15:16, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Democrats | To | Debating the New Refugee Advancement |
| Message | In both circumstances it is not our concern. It is more than enough that we shelter these groups, they do not need additional help, that is the role of charitable groups. |
| Date | 22:26:44, June 23, 2007 CET | From | The Unified Lodamun Party | To | Debating the New Refugee Advancement |
| Message | Its not always about saving money. SOmeties its just about doing the right thing. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 199 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 400 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: In cases where a party has no seat, the default presumption should be that the party is able to contribute to debates in the legislature due to one of its members winning a seat at a by-election. However, players may collectively improvise arrangements of their own to provide a satisfying explanation for how parties with no seats in the legislature can speak and vote there. |
| Random quote: "I worked at a factory owned by Germans, at coal pits owned by Frenchmen, and at a chemical plant owned by Belgians. There I discovered something about capitalists. They are all alike, whatever the nationality. All they wanted from me was the most work for the least money that kept me alive. So I became a communist." - Nikita Khrushchev |