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Bill: Anthem Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Communist Party of Lodamun
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2418
Description[?]:
| The CPL believes that a feeling of patriotism must be planted within children since their early days. Patriotism can be utilized by the government during certain situations. Other than that, patriotism can also give the people the feeling of a national identity OOC: The Red Army, although its officer class was purged during WW 2, could defeat the Wehrmacht because of 2 major reasons: 1. Sheer numbers 2. A strong feeling of patriotism |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Singing the national anthem in schools.
Old value:: Children are never made to sing the national anthem.
Current: Children are never made to sing the national anthem.
Proposed: Children are only made to sing the national anthem on special occasions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:47:59, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Communist Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Anthem Bill |
| Message | I would like to take this chance to apologize to all the parties of Lodamun. I am sorry that I have violated some norms set here, and I would like to set things straight. |
| Date | 08:24:46, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Free Lodamun | To | Debating the Anthem Bill |
| Message | Sounds good. This is certainly not too much to ask and a strong sense of national identity is important. |
| Date | 08:43:31, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the Anthem Bill |
| Message | We could be persuaded. What kinds of special occasions, for instance? |
| Date | 10:40:14, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Communist Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Anthem Bill |
| Message | This day probably: http://www.takeforum.com/particracy/viewtopic.php?p=141607&highlight=&mforum=particracy#141607 Have we come up with a name for it yet? Coronation Day, maybe? I'll be looking for more days. |
| Date | 12:05:23, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Radical Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Anthem Bill |
| Message | This is a step in the right direction, however we would like it to go further. |
| Date | 12:34:53, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Communist Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Anthem Bill |
| Message | This is the furthest the CPL is willing to give. The CPL believes in patriotism, but not nationalism. |
| Date | 12:53:22, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Democrats | To | Debating the Anthem Bill |
| Message | Full agreement with the Communists, patriotism is an honourable view to hold and maintain, and we shall support. |
| Date | 12:58:17, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Lodamun Distributionist Party | To | Debating the Anthem Bill |
| Message | Will the children be "made to sing at risk of punishment" or "expected to sing when the song is being played, anything otherwise would be frowned upon?" |
| Date | 13:43:25, June 23, 2007 CET | From | Communist Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the Anthem Bill |
| Message | I'd say the latter. You need them to give some respect. |
| Date | 04:50:35, June 24, 2007 CET | From | New Democratic Party | To | Debating the Anthem Bill |
| Message | But what would happen to students who didn't comply? Would they be punished, or just made to feel guilty and uncomfortable in front of their classmates? As much as we completely agree with the spirit of this law, there's something in the word "made" that make the NDP uncomfortable. Unfortunately, we can't agree. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 382 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 217 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Particracy does not allow official national flags of real-life nations or flags which are very prominent and recognisable (eg. the flags of the European Union, the United Nations, Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union or the Confederate States of America). |
| Random quote: "Africa is poor because its investors and its creditors are unspeakably rich" - Naomi Klein |