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Bill: Alliance with the Endralonian Empire
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partisans And Artisans League
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 2092
Description[?]:
| We propose that we form an alliance with the Endralonian Empire in their hour of need. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:21:19, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | No. We need to keep out of the Endralon affair. |
| Date | 23:53:27, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | No we need to support a nation that is under threat that has done nothing wrong |
| Date | 23:54:30, August 04, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | No. The Endralon affair is an internal affair between Endralon and New Endralon it has nothing to do with us. |
| Date | 11:59:15, August 05, 2005 CET | From |  Freedom Party | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | So PAL, you want war with us but want an alliance with Endralon despite them possessing both nuclear weapons and chemical/biological weapons. How hypocritical of you. |
| Date | 12:47:58, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | They have nuclear weapons because they have recieved direct threats from a nation that wishes to declare war on them, and has itself, nuclear weapons. NMRP: "internal affair" - since when has international politics been "internal"? The peace loving people of the Endralonian Empire are in danger from a foreign power and need our help so that they knwothey are not alone. Appeasement is not always the answer; what would you have done against Hitler? (sorry for the RL example). We are not declaring war on New Endralon but rather, we are stating that we stand with the democracy instead of authoritatrian communism. |
| Date | 13:08:43, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | "We were planning a similar treaty with them. We need this bill more than ever in light of the Beluzian problem." - oh we are a problem are we? The only problem I can see is your aggressive nature Don't ever have the pinko-commie cheek to call me hypocritcal! You and your war-mongering nation are the real "problem" in this continent! |
| Date | 15:32:18, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | You are hypocritical. Deal with it. |
| Date | 15:43:32, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | What an argument! Someone give this guy a medal! |
| Date | 22:24:05, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Catholic Workers Movement | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | Would the speaker of parliament please call for order in the House? Thank you. To return to the tpic, the Catholic Workers would oppose an alliance with the Endralonian Empire as needlessly provocative. Both Endralon adn New Endralon have made threats against the other, and our best position is to be neutral. |
| Date | 22:29:38, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Catholic Workers Movement | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | ((PAL, you may also want to check out Endralon's vote on a pact with Rutania: http://82.238.75.178:8085/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=12272)) |
| Date | 22:51:22, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Movement for Liberation and Communism | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | not to intefere with your internal affairs we would simply add we have made no threats of agression nor taken any aggressive acts against the empire we made it clear to them we did not respect their sovereignty on the basis we see them as undemocratic(for reasons I'm sure you can lookup if your interested) . We have been declared a dominion of their empire and members of their governing coalition openly petition for our destruction. We do not expect you to support us we simply hope you will respect this as the internal matter it is. |
| Date | 22:51:23, August 05, 2005 CET | From | Partisans And Artisans League | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | I saw it. We are to late. See the Ruts have the right idea - we were to slow of the mark making friends. |
| Date | 14:53:01, August 06, 2005 CET | From | Neo-Marxist revolutionary Party | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | For once will this House shut up! (That calling for order alright CWM? ^.^ I've no idea who the speaker for Parliament currently is so it's the best I can do) @PAL this is an internal affair between New Endralon and the Endralonian Empire, if I recall correctly many of the original parties of New Endralon were from the Empire and there was a rather large squabble between them all in the Empire, some left and set up a new country. Moreover as the Movement for Liberation and Communism has started they view this as an internal affair; it is akin (sort of) to a civil war. (Not the best explanation but the best I can do). @MLC my thanks for your diplomatic reply to this thread. Know that if/when this goes to the vote we of the NMRP will vote it down. @FP please calm down. |
| Date | 21:53:28, August 07, 2005 CET | From | Freedom Party | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | We were perfectly calm. When we said what we said, we said it in a quiet and dry manner. |
| Date | 22:23:38, August 07, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | The only way to silence the foriegn menace is with bludgeon and castor oil! |
| Date | 22:29:32, August 07, 2005 CET | From | People's Populist Party - Zogist Mafia | To | Debating the Alliance with the Endralonian Empire |
| Message | Allies are for queers! Kick ass and take names, thats the Beluzian way! The Peoples youth squad will defy Rutania’s sovereignty until the cowards declare war and defend themselves! Besides, Delvar is full of loot and dancing girls! Woo-hoo! All hail Beluzia! All hail the Master of the Iron Fist! |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 56 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 177 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 67 |
| Random fact: Selucia is Particracy's modern take on Ancient Rome, located on the continent of Majatra. |
| Random quote: "Dictators ride to and fro upon tigers which they dare not dismount. And the tigers are getting hungry." - Winston Churchill |