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Bill: FPA 4-20/5 Remuneration of ministers
Details
Submitted by[?]: Teleurstelling Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 2422
Description[?]:
| To reduce Federal spending, and to aid in the elimination of abuse by those who mislead the State as to their religious doctrine. In accordance with the Treaty for the Recognition of Ecclesias. It is here by proposed in the above that the Local Government regulates remuneration of ministers of religion so as to better ensure those who have played a truly active religious role in the community receive what is right, and those who have not receive not. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Current: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Proposed: The remuneration of ministers of religion shall be left up to the local governments.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:11:35, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/5 Remuneration of ministers |
| Message | Mr speaker, May I remind the Hon councillor that the church is the state, and that it is an Empire, not a federation! I yield the floor. |
| Date | 16:42:01, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Teleurstelling Party | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/5 Remuneration of ministers |
| Message | To the Rt Hon representative of the BCD, You will note the current legislation does not exclude ministers of other religons, by reform we eliminate abuses. And while indeed the Church is the State, the State is not exclusively the Church. I yield the floor. |
| Date | 16:43:05, June 28, 2007 CET | From | Secular Party | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/5 Remuneration of ministers |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Since this will help my party in the goal of creating a secular government, I shall lead my party in support of this bill. I yield the floor. |
| Date | 04:36:45, June 29, 2007 CET | From | Imperial Vodka and Pimm's Party | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/5 Remuneration of ministers |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I should just like to point out to our esteemed colleagues in the Falls Party that, in the Holy Empire, there is no such thing as 'Federal spending'. We are not, as are some degenerate countries, a loose coalition of disparate states called mockingly a 'federation'. Therefore there can be no such thing as federal spending. That being said - it is dangerous to delegate too much power to non-legislative, caretaker local governments. Thank you. |
| Date | 10:33:33, June 29, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/5 Remuneration of ministers |
| Message | Mr speaker, May I point out to all our Hon Friends and the ladies and gentlemen opposite that the current policy complies with the Ecclesias Treaty. I yield the floor. |
| Date | 11:53:25, June 29, 2007 CET | From | Luthori Christian Women's Association | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/5 Remuneration of ministers |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Church of Luthori is a national church, and should be funded and run on a national basis. I yield the floor. |
| Date | 18:55:03, June 30, 2007 CET | From | Teleurstelling Party | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/5 Remuneration of ministers |
| Message | Mr. Speaker May I point out the proposed policy complies the Treaty for the Recognition of Ecclesias, which I believe is what the gentleman from the BCD is making reference to...it is their party who put in place after all. I yield the floor. |
| Date | 14:43:33, July 02, 2007 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the FPA 4-20/5 Remuneration of ministers |
| Message | Mr speaker, I must ask the hon member for the Falls to read the Treaty. Our current policy is already in line with its articles, thus we do not need this proposal to bring us into compliance. I yield the floor. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 14 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 38 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 48 |
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